(10-25-2020, 11:46 PM)iam Wrote:

(10-25-2020, 10:37 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: The issue isn't Minshew's stats, and it isn't about his draft position or the lack of talent around him.

He threw for 173 yards today.  He didn't have a completion until the second quarter.  He missed two straight throws to Chark with the game on the line in a big way.  His arm is not strong enough to make all throws he needs to make.

That throw to Conley in the end zone was a thing of beauty, but teams have figured out that if you show blitz and drop into coverage he can't fit the ball into a tight window.

That throw to Conley was a timing pass.. Anything that’s not a timing throw Minshew has trouble. He’s just not good in the pocket. Once he put his head down the play is over. Minshew is 6’1”..Baker Mayfield is 6’1” ..Kyle Murray is 5’10” and they both are better throwing pocket QB’s than Minshew.

That’s what the west coast offense is: timing passes. I think a lot of people here don’t understand what a west coast offense is.

Minshew is supposed to make reads. The Conley throw was a timing route with favorable coverage(cover 0) pre snap.

We have no idea what his reads are. Head coaches have even said in the past that there is no way to know what reads an opposing offense is making. It’s a guess on our part. He makes his reads and then dumps off if nothing is open. That’s the play. So these downfield open receivers people are talking about are either not in his progressions or were not open at the time he looked for them.



From Wikipedia about a west coast offense:
[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,]“WCO" plays unfold quicker than in traditional offenses and are usually based on timing routes by the receivers. In this offense the receivers also have reads and change their routes based on the coverages presented to them. The quarterback makes three reads and if no opportunity is available after three reads, the QB will then check off to a back or tight end.“[/font]

Also when there is immediate pressure allowed, timing goes out the window so the QB is forced to hold the ball because the play is now destroyed.  
He also holds the ball in these situations because he has the ability to create. Each week, that ability to create has popped up more and more as he has learned the offense and where guys will be.

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