(10-26-2020, 12:31 PM)Corriewf Wrote:

(10-26-2020, 12:18 PM)Minshew Mania Wrote: All this talk about Gardner being a bum. What about the fact that our defense is literally setting records for points allowed? We just gonna gloss over that, because obviously a FrAnChIsE qB would be able to overcome that and win gamez! I also see people defending our offensive line? Jesus, they haven't played well since 2017, get a clue.


I swear the decades of losing Jags teams have tainted this fanbase. Ya'll don't know what a good QB looks like because we need more than a good QB to fix this team. It's a shame because in 2017 a good QB would have made us SB contenders but now we're basically back at square one with only a few young players to build around but half the fan base is already trying to get rid of said young players.

It's a vicious circle. Wish I could rely on crow eating to go around, but honestly this team is perpetually stuck in mediocreville it'll take these players going on other teams to see their potential, if they're not ruined first.

Start a thread about.... in the meantime this one is about Minshew. 

Stats don’t tell the full story. I remember a fantastic year of fantasy football at the office where I came in and won in a 12 person league. I played Bortles... He had great stats! Tons of TDs and yards... 

Can we just use the eye test for once? What do you see? Do you see Minshew scrambling too early and throwing short throws? I do! When receivers are getting upset there is a reason. They know more than any of us as they know the plays, the timing, the routes and they are running them. Chark has not been known as a problem child the last 3 years and yet now he’s clearly unhappy. 

QBR isn’t everything but clearly it’s accurately dialing in on Minshew being 25th. 

Off topic- I think many of the defensive woes are on Wash... replace him and you fix a lot of issues. I can’t say a new OC will fix Minshews.

You talk of stats not telling the full story, yet choose to evaluate Minshew in a vacuum ignoring the various atrocities that plague our team. 

You bring up Bortle's one year of garbage time stats, yet how many of Minshew's stats come from garbage time do you reckon? Also Bortle's could never throw a spiral, so there's that.

Using the eye test, I see a young QB struggling on a team plagued with a ton of issues. I see flashes of promise, but I see some problems as well. 

Other than his height, most of his problems can be fixed in theory.

Again I'm not suggesting we should put all our eggs in the Minshew basket. But calling him a bust relegated to bench duties the rest of his carrier is just alarmist and lacking of higher critical thinking. There's an area between Minshew is the neatest and Minshew is a bum. Somewhere in there lies the facts. But it's clouded by typical Jag ineptitude.

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