(10-27-2020, 12:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: QBR takes a legitimate problem but way way way overcomplicates the solution.  
For instance, why shouldn't the QB get credit for YAC.  The QB chose to throw the ball to the guy who was open enough to get YAC.  The QB presumably hit the guy in stride to set up good YAC.
YAC is not the problem.
And then the garbage time argument.  If the QB had hit his marks in the first and second quarters, there would be no garbage time.  His bad play in the first half gets averaged with the better play in the second half, so as long as we are looking at complete games, what's the issue?

I would rate QB's much more simply.
I'd just make 3 adjustments to the old passer rating:


1) Pass yards on 3rd and 4th down count as 0 unless the play results in a 1st down. 
2) QB sacks count as pass attempts, and yards lost to sacks count against pass yards
3) passer rating counts interceptions more than touchdowns.  That's usually backwards; most interceptions don't change the game much.  So make touchdown passes worth more positive points than interceptions are negative, but, an interception returned for a touchdown or an interception that allows the other team to run out the clock, cancels out a touchdown.

I will preface this by saying there is no one perfect stat.  But what you are saying here is Minshew's two touchdown passes against the Chargers should be viewed equally?  I strongly disagree there, and that is the strength of the QBR over Passer Rating.  Minshew dropping a dime to Conley was a GREAT pass, his dump off to Robinson was ALL Robinson... you or I could have made that throw.  Context matters.

Regarding "most interceptions don't change the game much".... WHAT?!?!  Turnovers are one of the biggest determinants of wins and losses in football.  Now SOME interceptions aren't as big a deal as others... like throwing a bomb to the end zone at the end of a half or game where you don't care much if it gets picked off.  QBR takes that into account... Passer Rating does not.  Context matters.

Is QBR complicated?  Absolutely.  But so is evaluating quarterback play. QBR takes into account more information and provides a better evaluation than the simplified Passer Rating.  Context matters.

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(10-27-2020, 12:31 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(10-27-2020, 11:57 AM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: Agreed.  On all points.  We need a full reset here, and I am optimistic we will get it after the season.

Lol, optimism? About the #becausejaguars?

I understand your concerns.  But even Khan can see you can't have a lame duck front office going into the 2021 off-season with multiple first round picks and a ton of cap space to spend.  You either have to extend the FO this year or fire them; and it would be impossible to do the former.

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