(10-28-2020, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(10-28-2020, 12:31 AM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: Again... you are missing the point.  By a mile.  QBR is NOT subjective analysis, it is objective.  Minshew's pass for the TD to Conley was 28 yards, no YAC.  For Robinson, it was 1 yard + 9 yards YAC.  That is the difference...the QB gets more credit for Conley's TD pass than Robinson's passed on that.  QBR doesn't measure the "beauty" of the pass... it does measure where the ball was thrown to and the YAC to indirectly evaluate the distance of the pass and QB play.  If you want qualitative assessment, that is the coaches' grading sheet.  And I have no idea why you would mention the mindset of the QB or coach in their understanding of the QBR... what are you even talking about?  That's ridiculous.  You clearly do not understand the point, or even the discussion about QBR vs. Passer Rating vs. ANY/A.  I have no idea what you're even talking about anymore dude... and neither do you.

Dude, no need to be hostile.
My point is, I don't like QBR because you can't verify it.
Here's an example:
Suppose at the end of the game, Byron Leftwich has a 105 qb rating.  But we watched the game.  We know he played poorly most of the game.  So we can get out our calculators and say things like, "If Jimmy Smith had dropped that one 4th down touchdown pass, Leftwich's rating would have been 74.". But with QBR you can't do that.  You'd have to call up ESPN and ask them, "can you tell me what Leftwich's grade would have been in this scenario?"
See the difference?
If you can't verify it or tweak it, it's not interesting. I guess it's interesting for the guys who have access to the secret sauce at ESPN, but not to me.

Again, no stat is perfect.  You can "tweak" or interpret any stat given circumstances or alternative outcomes that didn't happen.  And dropped passes is actually part of the QBR calculation, so you don't need to do that with QBR.  You would for Passer Rating  or ANY/A.  So again... your point is moot.  

If you don't like QBR because its too complicated for you to understand... that's fine.  Or as you say, "because I can't verify it".  Cool.  But to say it is inferior to the metrics of Passer Rating or ANY/A that only take into account 4 or 5 measurements is just simple-minded.

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