(12-02-2020, 01:18 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(12-02-2020, 01:11 PM)Kane Wrote: What kind of GM has ever had 8 years on the job and had no input on the HC(s).
I remember the reports about Bradley being someone Khan wanted... but to think Caldwell had 0 say in both HC's seems off to me. Also, who handicap's their GM by not allowing him to fire a failing coach?

If Khan truly didn't allow Caldwell any say in either HC hires and prevented him from making calls on staff... Khan is a problem and Caldwell was pretty much just a draft guy for like 5 of his 8 years (considering Coughlin had the final say during his years.)

We'll probably never know to what degree Caldwell was hamstrung by Khan's insistence on the Bradley hiring and firing, but it happened. We know that. 

Does that make Khan part of the problem? Yes. 
Did Khan then further bungle things by bringing in Coughlin? Yes. 

Khan and company need to nail this next GM hire and then let the new GM hire HIS coach. Hopefully this is a lesson already learned.

(also, you're reply says "zero say" and another similar description which are exactly NOT what I described)

Right... I didn't mean to insinuate you said he had zero say, but the other poster seemed to give him a complete pass on 2 head coaches. So if he didn't have "zero" say... then he holds some of the blame for the 2 'meh' HCs too right?
I mean... at this point piling on Caldwell is unnecessary. Hell, I've even been one to say his tenure wasn't quite as bad as many posters seem to put out there. But of the things to excuse him on, HC wouldn't be on my personal list. More so just personnel moves made during the Coughlin tenure.

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