(12-14-2020, 03:20 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(12-14-2020, 03:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Keep in mind, I am not a Trump supporter. I am anti-progressive. 

I have watched several of the court hearings, and most of the congressional hearings. Sidney Powell, for example, asked the judge for 5 days to examine dominion voting machines and was denied. You can not get the kind of evidence required without a proper investigation, and, if the states won't authorize it, it won't be done. I understand why the courts are making the choices that they are making, but you are using that to conclude that fraud did not occur, which is incorrect. We have evidence that irregularities occurred, but the powers that be are choosing not to do a rigorous search.

When you say, "the powers that be" does that include Attorney General Barr?  

And, if Sidney Powell has evidence that Dominion voting machines are part of some conspiracy, why does she need 5 days to examine them?  She should just present her evidence.  It sounds like she is asking for 5 days so she can try to find the evidence.  

"Your honor, Dominion voting machines are part of a giant conspiracy."
"What is your evidence?"
"Give me 5 days and I'll find it."  
"No.  Just... no. Get the hell out of here and stop wasting the court's time with unsubstantiated charges."

And again, Georgia did a hand recount which showed the Dominion machines were accurate.

You're arguing in circles, dude. There is evidence something odd happened. There is plenty of it. There are affidavits from personnel who said they saw instances of people scanning the same ballots through the machines multiple times. There is forensic proof that the same ballots can be scanned and counted. This is countered by hand count argument that you reference, but that neglects the affidavits that point out the many occasions where conservative observers were kicked out while election workers continued the count in private. We aren't doing an audit on signatures in the hand count, so the quickest way is to examine the machines. Conveniently, the logs were wiped in Fulton county, and, now Antirim county in MI (double check that last bit). We still have logs from elections 4 years ago, so why are they wiping the machines in the counties in question? 

Everything listed above is evidence of sorts. It's not conclusive evidence. It's not enough to overturn an election. It should be enough to get a state official or a judge to do a forensic audit of the machines. This is not counting some of the other reports that speak to the inconsistency of the machines. I don't know how much I trust that, though. It's hard to find sources for a lot of the trash that's flying around the internet. 

I don't know what's up with Barr. I really don't. He gave the attorney's general of the states permission to bring him evidence. They haven't. I haven't seen anything that shows there's a federal investigation into these matters. I have only watched what I was able to (mostly state hearings and trials), and tried to follow the data. The federal stuff has not been made available.

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