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(12-21-2020, 02:54 AM)TheDuke007 Wrote:
(12-21-2020, 02:09 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: I am dead serious. 

1. You realize the Jets are the only team since they been recording the actual stats to run a 8 man blitz in that exact situation? The only team in like 25 years ( likely more). That was by design. 

2. They had to fire Gregg for optics. I’m sure he got paid. 

3. They are incompetent, but let me also be clear. PLAYERS don’t tank. Coaches do. It happens all the time in the NBA, they sit their best players at the end of the year and put out weak talent to play. They position themselves to lose. Gregg Williams positioned them to lose, but I’m sure the CB on the play Lamar Jackson didn’t give up that play on purpose... he just was behind the 8 ball. I’m a big NBA fan, and maybe I’m just damaged by how that league works... but if you are a NBA fan like myself and believe teams don’t tank... I don’t know what reality you are in.

Sigh.

1.  You completely failed to address my point.  If the plan was to tank, why WAIT to that point to tank?  Again, watch the game or read the play-by-play!!!!  It's 1st and 10 from the 16 yard line with 2:07 left.  No tanking.  It's then 2nd and 6 from the 12 yard line with 2:00 minutes left.  No tanking.  It's then 3rd and 3 from the 9 yard line with 1:55 left.  No tanking.  It's then 4th and 3 from the 9 yard line with 1:42 left.  NO TANKING!!!  Why?  Why?  Why?  Why? Why? After the stop, it only takes one Jets first down and they win.  Even if the Jets go 3 and out, the Raiders still have to march all the way down the field with little time left.  If not, the Jets win. If you are being paid to lose, why in the world would you risk it!?!!?!  It makes ZERO sense to stop them on downs from the 16 with only 2:07 left in the game if you are trying to tank.

2.  Yet you have ZERO evidence to support this.

3.  You couldn't make an argument, so you change the subject.  The question isn't whether any team in the history of sports has ever tanked a game.  It's whether the Jets were tanking and you still have absolutely no evidence to support it.  You are claiming that Gregg Williams was paid to tank and was fired for optics.  If so, why have the Jets win the game after the next?  Why pay Gregg Williams and not the next guy?  In fact, if Williams is so willing to accept bribes and tank, why bother firing him!?!?!  Just ride it out.  They easily could have.  It makes ZERO sense to tank in the Raiders game and not tank in the Rams game.

You're right, zero evidence, but also zero evidence to contradict.
Not saying he got paid, but he was a scapegoat for darn sure, and if the blitz got home, sure, he's credited with a savvy call at an opportune time, but makes no sense not to drop 8 and protect the EZ at all costs. A DC with his resume does not get to write that off as a learning experience.

Just look at the other posts here "Shad needs to tell blah blah to start blah blah" "we need to put the bottom of the roster on the field" - If the owner tells the GM that round 1 pick 1 is the trophy, that message is getting to the coaches. They may not be so obvious as to start Dan Lefevour at QB, but a bad blitz call in a close game can turn a surprising win into a competitive loss. No telling if Gregggg didn't take matters into his own hands there, but it was a laydown for sure. And yes, he's still getting paid, even if he got canned. The only way they don't is if another team picks him up for the same salary or more for these waning weeks of the season. Good luck with that.
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