(01-04-2021, 02:31 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:

(01-03-2021, 06:02 PM)EricC85 Wrote: So you know things are getting dark when House Democrats House Republicans Trump and many of the Senators are all aligned to pay once again welfare payments to the public at large in the form of stimulus checks. These are not funds that require proof of hardship no request is to be made no qualifications other than income to be considered.
 

It's totally screwed up that:

* retired people get stimulus checks
* people on welfare get stimulus checks
* people that are gainfully employed get stimulus checks

The above people didn't experience financial hardships.  Financial hardships should be resolved via unemployment reimbursements that coincide with each persons loss of income.

Small freaking businesses are getting crushed.  These owners should be compensated equivalent to their losses that are based on comparative tax statements from 2019 vs 2020.  

Such an easy solution ....

(01-04-2021, 02:41 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(01-04-2021, 02:31 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: It's totally screwed up that:

* retired people get stimulus checks
* people on welfare get stimulus checks
* people that are gainfully employed get stimulus checks

The above people didn't experience financial hardships.  Financial hardships should be resolved via unemployment reimbursements that coincide with each persons loss of income.

Small freaking businesses are getting crushed.  These owners should be compensated equivalent to their losses that are based on comparative tax statements from 2019 vs 2020.  

Such an easy solution ....

The problem with this approach is that you're relying on small business owners to pass that relief along to employees. Many would, I'm sure. But there are also many who would say, "I'll pass them on after covering the shop's expenses," and once they've taken care of back-due vendor payments, covered lost inventory, paid the rent and kept the lights on, well, many of them might find that there's not really anything left. And there are a large number, I'm sure, who would just go in from the start with the attitude that they are taking care of themselves and their own first, and will pass whatever's left on down the line.

I didn't experience a financial hardship, but if I do down the line, I've got $1,800 more in my savings account than I did a year ago to cover for it. Are most people using it responsibly? Judging by how many stores magically have a huge stock of TVs and laptops costing $599, probably not, but that's ultimately there problem. Either you provide direct relief or you don't. Reagan-era trickle down economics died with Reagan.

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(01-04-2021, 02:41 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: The stimulus should have been handled via unemployment and PPP. The checks to everyone based on income from a pre-pandemic tax return is an epic fail from our government. People should be outraged.

Edit: Wow, I didn't even see HURRICANEs post before writing this. Common ground. Damn. <gives self 12 lashes>

Will your butt ever be un-chafed over the fact that you make way too much to qualify for a stimulus check?