(01-24-2021, 11:10 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(01-24-2021, 07:44 PM)copycat Wrote: Ever?  This is or it was my favorite place to come for civilized discussions from opposing views.  The election of Trump certainly changed a lot of things.  He is polarizing to be sure and I hope in the near future some genuflecting occurs.  I believe it was Lucky or perhaps America that stated the democrats for the first time ever faced an opposition that did not roll over and used the same tactics the left has been using for 20 years against them.  The irrational hatred for all things Trump the past 4 plus years would certainly make for an awesome discussion but I don’t see that happening any time soon.

I've stated my case on it many times. 

Cheating people out of their money is integral to his business model. 

When I lived in NYC he was on the local news about once every 6-8 weeks for some lawsuit or the other wherein he refused to pay someone what they were owed. 
Contractors, engineers, architects, various vendors that provide goods or services for his assorted properties - many of them would go unpaid then offered pennies on the dollar for what their actual contract stated. If they didn't accept, he'd have his team of lawyers hold the case up in court until the plaintiffs could no longer afford the legal fees to continue fighting for their hard earned money. 

I personally know of a piano company in NYC that was forced out of business after he never paid them for the pianos he "leased" from them for his failed casino in A.C. -- and there are dozens more just like that example. 

This is plenty on its own to despise the shady grifter, but he's done nothing but add to the long list of grievances since. 

Very glad enough Americans came to their senses about his nature to vote him out.

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(01-24-2021, 10:55 PM)copycat Wrote: While I agree with your premise your conclusion is wrong.  Corporations are afraid to advertise out of fear of offending people.  How did we wind up here?

I didn't arrive at any conclusion in my post - therefore it can't be "wrong" as you suggest. 

I asked a question. I offered no conclusion. 

How did we wind up where? In a place where corporations make careful decisions about their marketing? 
We've been there since the late 50's.

What Trump did with his personal business and his court dealings has nothing to with me as an American citizen..

What Trump did for me as a President was put extra money in my pocket through business tax reductions and through my 401k and greatly reduce unemployment for many Americans especially black, latino and women..

And if you're glad he's out of office because of his piano lawsuit business dealings, then you're missing the bigger picture and you're part of the problem with this country..

Nothing but butthurt feelings on your part is how I see it..

And how many of thousands of people have lost their jobs since that pedo and his hooker took office?

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