(01-31-2021, 10:33 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Yup. I've said repeatedly that the right will lose because of their principles. The left has many authors and philosophers on record seeking to exploit this "flaw" in their political opponent. For the left, it's only political power. For the right, it's about the preservation of a culture. The left will not abandon the progressives who use underhanded tactics. This leaves the right with the options of abandoning their morals or losing so much political power that they no longer have a voice to shape their own culture unless they resort to the same tactics. I don't believe the right can win and salvage their principles.

The time to act was 3 decades ago. The right has virtually no avenue to shape the mainstream cultural narrative anymore. Now you are seeing them resort to extremes as a last ditch attempt to reclaim that narrative.

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(01-31-2021, 10:33 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Don't underestimate people's ability to recognize extremism. She plays well in narrow segments but not widely. Have you ever noticed how Bernie receives high regards from the left but his ideas are either mitigated or dismissed? Bernie and AOC work in the 'aspirational' realm.

You're one of my favorite posters here, but you neglect the narrative. I have been learning a lot about Gramsci and Sorrel's views on the myths that shape culture. The left has almost a complete monopoly on shaping American mythology. The right is losing their ability to shape that, and, when it's gone, you will see a major overhaul in our nation. This is also somewhat neglecting the roles other nations are playing in weakening America.

You're being a bit of a doomsayer. The election of Trump shows the left does not have a monopoly. The left did not win this last election, Donald Trump lost it. Had the man any sense of diplomacy and prudence he would still be president. 

Hope is not lost. Try not to get wrapped around the axle with intellectual arguments because politics and sociology are not intellectual arenas. We have politicians and teachers unions to prove that.

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