(02-02-2021, 03:05 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(02-01-2021, 03:34 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: You should probably change the way you approach this issue if you want to be fair about it. Democrats certainly cheated. There is massive amounts of evidence that suggests this happened. There isn't sufficient proof to overturn it in courts. Even Barr acknowledged the was fraud, he just knew that Trump didn't have a way to PROVE it cost him the election. Every single case was thrown out due to standing. It may be splitting hairs, but election integrity is important, and making the claim that there was no fraud is just as false as someone who knows Trump won by a landslide. 

Also, if you guys really want unity, stop referring to anyone with a different opinion as QAnon or NAZI. It lacks integrity.

Stop posting unfounded claims of voter fraud that would have changed the election and I'll stop mentioning QAnon. The only people still bringing up massive voter fraud are people who frequent far right conspiracy sights. No one outside of that group, buys into it. I don't subscribe to either party, so I don't have a dog in this fight. I didn't buy that there was any mass cheating in 2016 when Trump won and I certainly don't buy it now. I live in the real world. More people hated Trump, than they disliked Biden. That's why Trump lost. End of story.

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(02-01-2021, 10:50 PM)Sneakers Wrote: There is ample evidence that some voter fraud occurred in this election, whereas it would be virtually impossible to prove that cheating did not occur under any circumstances.  Cheating does not necessarily change the outcome of an election however, just like holding a receiver does not necessarily guarantee he won't catch the ball.

I don't like Biden as President, but I do accept his victory.  Looking past this election, we should all be concerned about the integrity of the process and take steps to ensure that 2024 will be completely transparent and above impropriety.

What I should've stated was that there was no "massive voter fraud which would have changed the election". There is always gonna be some cheating, but on a very small level. 

This is a very reasonable assumption you make. I hope Trumpers will follow your lead. It's over and done with. Time to move on.

In both Pennsylvania and North Carolina we have clear actions where both states violated their voting laws by changing them through the State Supreme Court after the deadline to do so by legislation, and in such a way that it clearly benefited one candidate over the other. This is a violation of the law and no one was willing to say so because no one wants to be the party that officially says the election was rigged. This isn't some hidden scheme, it's outright lawbreaking.

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