(02-27-2021, 08:21 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(02-27-2021, 06:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Those stats have EVERYTHING to do with your ridiculous position. Every one of those cases at the Innocence Project source provided were "undeniably" guilty of capital crimes as adjudicated by a jury of their peers. And every one of those verdicts was wrong. This isn't vague, it's clear and obvious. You've taken this stance on your "guidelines" as if it matters. It doesn't. Misidentification. Exculpatory DNA evidence. Even outright FALSE CONFESSION, what you would consider the penultimate case of "Undeniable Guilt", has been PROVEN in a court of law to be, in fact, deniable. I've provided you written documentation of capital cases overturned on appeal and all you can do is try to gin up some hypothetical situation where the defendant shouldn't be entitled to a fair trial. No, you're wrong, every defendant is entitled to the presumption of innocence, a fair trial, and access to the appeals process of the United States legal system in every single case that comes before the court, even if he or she did it.

You're putting words in my mouth that I DID NOT SAY. I never once used identification or confessions as an example of undeniable guilt. Read what I wrote and stop lying. I specifically said, false confessions and misidentification are a real things and are NOT undeniable guilt. How about actually reading responses, before accusing people of things they didn't say. How typical of you to use falsehoods and random stats that have nothing to do with this specific argument. Keep pushing that liberal agenda.

Lol, there you go again. You seem to really struggle with the most basic concepts here. You're claiming the person was caught in the act. So were the witnesses who misidentified the persons who've been exonerated. You're saying there was DNA evidence, such was also the case when others were exonerated. I'm saying you would execute a person who confessed to you because you would hold that confession as even stronger evidence than the ID and DNA, but even those have been overturned on appeal. In short, your position is untenable, factually disproven, and violates the most basic principles of American jurisprudence. I hope for your sake you never find yourself subject to the vindictiveness that you yourself wish on other potentially innocent people. But hey, kill 'em all; who cares if they didn't do it.
By the way, not that you asked, but I favor the death penalty as a legitimate punishment at the conclusion of the legal process (must be the liberal in me). But we should always take every precaution to insure that the convict was actually guilty, and history shows that we've not been particularly good at that. Having said that, exactly how many innocent people will you accept slipping through to execution to satisfy your desire for retribution? 1? 50? 1,000? How many are worth it to you?

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