(03-17-2021, 06:26 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: The military today (I can only speak of what I see on the Navy base) is in big trouble should they ever have to do their job.  Actual training for their job is "secondary" to the "social experiment" that it has become.  A command in our building took over a space that used to be used for actual training to turn it into a "lactation lounge".  When we told a senior member of one of the tenant commands in our building that we needed a watch starting at 0600 and running to 1200 we were informed by him (an E-9) that their "work day doesn't start until 0800".  He also stated that he doesn't want to put someone on a watch for 4 hours because it's "too much" and that he would give us two people for a 2 hour watch each.  Seriously.

The social area on the base (no clubs of any kind anymore) celebrates "gay pride" and has "gay functions".  The standards for grooming have also been "relaxed" so that females can wear their hair in ways that are not very appropriate when it comes to "military bearing".

PT (physical training) is more important now rather than proficiency in their actual job.

The problem is the military is allowing troops to be "individuals" rather than part of a unit.  One of the biggest concepts that used to be taught in basic training was that you are not an "individual" you are part of a team.  Nobody is different than the person standing next to them.  That's all gone.

Now it seems that people with mental disorders are not only allowed to be a part of the military, but the military (we tax payers) will have to pay for their "treatment" of their mental disorder.

If we ever have to go to war we are screwed.

As a vet, I'll admit that the change in the military mindset bugs me. But I also have to ask myself if things have to be done exactly the way I was taught in order to be successful. I wonder. We definitely didn't train/behave like the military units a generation or more before and we were ok. I'm with you in thinking that the tax payers shouldn't be required to fund elective surgeries. But you lost me when you describe transgenderism as a mental disorder. It's true, conservatives largely think of it that way but over the years, "mental disorder" has been used to describe everything from women wanting divorces to inter-racial relationships to homosexuality. We've gotten past most of that but obviously there are still some hangups we're working on.

If we ever have to go to war, we're screwed but that would have been the case in our day as much as it is today.

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