(03-25-2021, 07:04 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(03-25-2021, 04:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Sounds like a rationalization. Let's ignore for a minute that Trump's admitted he's done it in the past. If you believe that Trump is the victim of a frame up, why's it so difficult to believe the same about Cuomo or vice versa?

Trump never "admitted" anything.  He was caught on a hot mike saying that "they let you grab them".  That's really not hard to believe.  To think that a hot woman would allow a rich and powerful man to "grab them" is pretty much "the norm".

When that moment was caught on the hot mike, I believe that it was prior to him being elected, so it's not like he used his position of power as being an elected official to abuse women.

For what it's worth, I don't think that just because a person is wealthy or famous it gives them the right to treat women that way.  However it's two different things.

Like I said to HB, it's certainly different circumstances but the main issue is: did both men use positions of power to harass or assault women? The timing shouldn't matter.

The former president's alleged victims were subordinate to him in quite a few instances. That is substantively similar to what Cuomo has been accused of.

Seems to me you can't condemn one without condemning the other and likewise, if you defend one, you're essentially defending the other.

As far as the nature of Trump's comments, we'll have to agree to disagree. One thing I can tell you though is if any of us reading this forum tried to do anything like Trump said he's done, we'd almost certainly be in a world of trouble.

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