(04-19-2021, 07:19 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: (04-18-2021, 05:36 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Along with this, we can finally stop pretending that draft position means nothing, like so many tried to do in those tanking debates.
If we didn't have the top overall pick, there is no way in hell we get Trevor Lawrence.
I think the point I always tried to make about "tanking," by which I assume we mean losing on purpose, is that players won't do it and coaches won't do it. So there's no point in saying, "We should tank for Trevor" because it won't happen. We didn't lose on purpose last year. We lost because we genuinely sucked. Yes, I agree that we were lucky to suck at the right time, but we didn't tank. We just got really really lucky to suck at the right time. And the Jets- God bless 'em- they played like professionals and tried to win every game.
But did you mind if they lost/root for them to lose whether they were truly tanking or not?
(04-19-2021, 07:57 AM)MoJagFan Wrote: The record was what we earned because of who we were last year. I enjoyed watching Minshew gut it out and try to win. Unfortunately, it was disheartening to see the game plans and awful execution expose our talent gaps and front office issues.
With this being the first time we pick first overall, it is nice there is a prize out of all this misery. I real hope this straightens out the franchise.
It's but one of many steps needed to straighten out this franchise.
It's a huge step. Perhaps the most important step. But still one of many.
(04-19-2021, 09:24 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: (04-16-2021, 01:21 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: Honestly that's sort of where this team was last year. It played very well in spots but couldn't close.
.... and for those of us who wanted Trevor Lawrence, those close losses were very stressful. The Vikings game was the one that had me on edge. We stopped them at their own 20 yard line in OT and proceeded to get a penalty on our punt return setting us back to our own 18 yard line. Vikings intercept the ball at the Jags 46, march down the field to the 5 and kick a 23 yard field goal.
Jeez, I had forgotten about that Vikings game.
It's like once we nailed the top overall pick, I forgot just about all details of last season. I've been looking forward ever since.
(04-19-2021, 10:36 AM)Mikey Wrote: (04-19-2021, 07:19 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think the point I always tried to make about "tanking," by which I assume we mean losing on purpose, is that players won't do it and coaches won't do it. So there's no point in saying, "We should tank for Trevor" because it won't happen. We didn't lose on purpose last year. We lost because we genuinely sucked. Yes, I agree that we were lucky to suck at the right time, but we didn't tank. We just got really really lucky to suck at the right time. And the Jets- God bless 'em- they played like professionals and tried to win every game.
Well, except for maybe that Raider game
(Thanks, Gregg, although you still are a walking bag of feces)
Yes he is.
Jeff Fisher, too.
I cringe for the college kids Fisher will coach at Tennessee State under Eddie George. They will be cheap shot artists.
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!