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The Real Marty · 04-20-2021, 11:59 AM

(04-20-2021, 11:43 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(04-20-2021, 11:26 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not just the few wins at the end of a season, every game. That's how to change the culture. All those top 5 and top 10 picks did us a lot of good didn't it? It's just a loser mentality, some people like to win at everything, some doesn't mind losing. If your GM needs pick 18 instead of pick 20 to pick the right guy you have the wrong GM. So the wins wins late in the season means something for the Chargers but not the other team? Lol, ok
All those top 5-10 picks we had SHOULD have meant the team was better but the GM obviously has to make the right pick. You can't really believe there's no difference between pick 5 and pick 20.

I can see if you have a young ascending team, how wins late in the season could effect culture but it still wouldn't matter to me. Playoffs or bust. Being a middle of the road team gets you no where. I would rather be 3-13 with a top 3 pick than 7-9 with pick 20. Securing better players (given you have a competent GM) gives your team a better chance to win. It's why the draft order is the way it is.....

The wins obviously meant nothing to the Chargers last year because they fired their coach anyway. They won their last 4 games and fired their coach to change the culture.....

About the underlined part- I do not agree. Of course I would rather have a top 3 pick than pick 20. But I'd still rather be 7-9 going into the next season than 3-13. The reason is, your record is a measure of the overall quality of your team. A 7-9 team is much closer to the playoffs than a 3-13 team.

It does have some effect on "culture" of course, but that's not the big thing to me. To me, it's a measurement of the quality of your team.

Last year, when we got to 1-13, I saw the value of losing the last 2 games. Because at 1-15 vs 3-13, in both cases, the quality of your team sucks. It's practically the same thing, and then there was Trevor Lawrence. So I wasn't totally rigid in my stance on winning vs losing. But in general, I'd much rather have a 7-9 team than a 3-13 team.