(04-20-2021, 12:28 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(04-20-2021, 12:00 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: As far as the last paragraph, it's about the young players learning what it takes to win and how to win, not the coach.  Give me the 7-9 or 8-8 record this year than a 3-13.   If we go 7-9 or 8-8 I know this team is improving and the arrow is pointing up than 3-13 and picking top 5 again.  I don't think you go to games, because if you went to games I don't think you would say that.  I go to watch them win, not to hope we have a higher pick next year.

I don't go to games but if you think I haven't suffered through losing, then you are mistaken. Caps, Orioles, Terps and Jags..... Not exactly murderers row. I have gone to plenty of Orioles, Terps and Caps games throughout the years and most of the time, I'm going to the games to enjoy the atmosphere and party with friends. The outcome, most of the time, is largely irrelevant. It doesn't effect my day one bit. Playoff games are different though but outside of the Caps, not a lot of that happening.

Here's the list of 6-10, 7-9 or 8-8 teams from last season (excluding WFT and Chicago who made playoffs). Pats, Raiders, Chargers, Giants, Cowboys, Bears, Vikings, and Cards. Of those teams, I would say 2 or 3 have a better roster or better shot at making the playoffs than the Jags. And yet, they had 5-7 more wins than the Jags last season. I don't think the Bears, Pats, Raiders, or Giants are that much better than the Jags or even better at all for that matter.

Winning games is extremely important but the overall goal is to make the playoffs and ultimately a championship. If you don't make the playoffs, there is no difference in your record in my eyes. No playoffs means you have a lot of work to do and I would rather have a larger player pool to choose from when it comes to the draft.

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(04-20-2021, 12:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: If Smith was a good GM he wouldn't of needed Luck

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It's crazy to me some would rather see us go 3-13 this year than 7-9 or 8-8 if we miss the playoffs

I would rather the team win every game but to me, there is no difference between 3-13 and 7-9 or 8-8. Both miss the playoffs and both have work to do. Games are largely decided by 1 score. Going 7-9 vs 3-13 largely means you got lucky in 3 games. It doesn't mean you're that much better than the rest of the bad teams. They're all bad.

There is a difference to me.  7-9 means this team is improving and likely learning how to win, 3-13 the team hasn't improved much and we are likely picking top 5 again.  Like you say, the outcome of a game is irrelevant to you, losses really doesn't bother you.  Some people hate to lose, I'm one of them and I hope are players are like that too because I know our coach is.

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