(04-27-2021, 11:47 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(04-27-2021, 09:46 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Regarding the bolded part- where the hell did you get that idea?  Can you quote me on that?  All I asked was, does it matter to you how she stands on the issues.  Where do you see that "supposition?"

Regarding it being a simple question with no context, if you think it deserves context, put some context in your answer.  I was just wondering whether his/her stand on the issues matter to you in your hypothetical choice to support him/her or not support him/her.  I was just wondering how strongly you (and everyone else) felt about the transgender issue and if it would override any other consideration.  No trap.  I swear.

Believe it or not, I am not always looking for a knock-down drag-out argument around here.  Sometimes, I just curious as to why people say some of the things they say.

Don't take it as an attack. I'm just pointing out the sequence of events. You stated that conservatives don't care about how a transgendered person cares about policy. Then you asked me if I would refuse to vote for a transgendered person just because they were transgendered. It's asked in a yes or no manner that is void of context, and phrasing it that way either confirms your bias, or creates an opening to attack someone for hypocrisy. Textbook "gotcha."

Generally speaking, I consider you a person who is genuinely interested in good-faith arguments, so I don't think it's a reflection of your character as much as I think it's a product of our political environment. Much of our debate ends up framed in this manner. If you want to be perceived as a person that is just seeking understanding, it's probably better to ask open ended questions.

No, I did not state that conservatives don't care about how a transgendered person cares about policy.  Absolutely not.  You have confused me with someone else, because another person did say that.  But not me.  

I did ask if you would refuse to vote for a transgendered person just because they are transgendered.  If you think answering that question yes or no would expose you to a charge of hypocrisy, that's an interesting take.  But that's not what I was going for.

I'll answer the question myself.   Would I refuse to vote for a transgendered person just because they are transgendered?  I don't know.  Transgenderism (if we can call it that) is fairly new to me.  It's jarring when I meet one.  But I used to be sort of prejudiced against gays, until I got to know a few, and became friends with them, and my attitude changed completely.  So maybe someday I'll get used to transgendered people.  

So in answer to the question, would you refuse to vote for a transgendered person just because they are transgendered, if you say yes or no, I'm not going to judge you.  I think your answer was most likely yes, but sometimes no.  Because you think it's a mental disorder.  But there could be a case where he/she was running against someone worse, and then you would vote for him/her.  Right?

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