(05-16-2021, 05:16 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:

(05-16-2021, 04:45 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Oh get off with the "Tebow haters" bull [BLEEP]..

Just because somebody dislikes the player (on the field)/a move the team makes, doesn't mean they hate the person.

I didn't want them to trade a 1st round pick for Orlando Brown Jr. on a 1 year rental. I thought it'd be a bad move, just like signing Tebow would be a bad move. So does that mean I must hate Brown or something? No it doesn't.

The length of this thread and your sensitivity to my post suggest more than mere disagreement with a move the team makes.  I'm assuming most posters on a football message board don't literally hate a player.  In context, hate means to have a viscerally negative opinion of someone.  Sort of the way I felt about Urban Meyer when he coached Florida (because I'm a Georgia fan) and Ohio State (because it's Ohio State).

I'd say the yelp means I hit my target.

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(05-16-2021, 04:22 PM)Bullseye Wrote: It depends on the circumstances.

In most cases, whenever there is a new coach, he will often bring in players with whom he has a relationship, who knows the system he wants to implement, etc.  I could even see an instance where a coach brings in a player he coached several years earlier.  For instance, Meyer hasn't coached Malik Hooker in years.  I don't think anyone would have a problem bringing him in, because he has at least been active in the NFL since Meyer last coached him, even though he isn't the player he was pre injury.  But in most cases the person brought in hasn't been out of football for eight years and has played the position (or a similar one) for which he is auditioning.  Kelvin Benjamin hasn't played since 2018.  He is trying out for the Giants for a different position thatn he initially played, but the overlap between WR and TE is such that he MIGHT be able to make the transition.  As a TE, Benjamin would be tasked with beating a jam at the LOS, beating man coverage, identifying soft coverages and adjusting his routes to exploit holes in zones, and to catch the ball, often immediately before getting hit.  None of this is true in Tebow's case.

Tebow's absence from the game exceeded the length of his college and NFL career combined, and at 33-34 is making the switch to a position that is nothing close to what he played before.  Aside from shotgun snaps and the one route he ran with the Jets, he's never run routes on a regular basis.  Nor has he been tasked with any in line blocking the way he would be here.  There is no discernible overlap from his old position to his new one like there is with Kelvn Benjamin.

Very disingenuous to suggest this is like the typical tryout.

A favor is a favor, Bullseye.  Nothing more.  The longer this drags on, the more likely he doesn't get a camp invite.

On the other hand, I wish we had signed Kelvin Benjamin.  There might actually be something there with him.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting it wasn't a favor.  I don't doubt it was a favor.

What I am saying, however, is that this wasn't a typical May tryout.

To be clear, I don't blame Tebow at all for requesting the tryout.

Jimmy Smith (and his mom, IIRC) had to ask TC for him to get a tryout by sending him a package, including tape. If Tebow still has the itch to play, I don't blame him from exploring all possibilities.

I'm just surprised he GOT the tryout diven the totality of circumstances.

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