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flgatorsandjags · 05-19-2021, 07:04 PM

(05-19-2021, 06:47 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:
(05-19-2021, 08:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Oh, I'm certain that played a major role in this particular move, but it doesn't alter my overall point - which applies to multiple moves. I also would prefer to see the due diligence of evaluating these players in person before jettisoning them.

First, they have tape on Scott. Do you really think Scott will look significantly different in person than on tape? Do the cameras lie? If the Jaguars didn't like his height, is that going to magically change by bringing him to camp?

Second, while I suspect Meyer probably signs off on all trades, my impression is that Meyer is focused on the starters and other key players. I believe the third stringers and the bottom of the 90 man roster are primarily handled by Baalke and his scouts. Baalke was with the team last year and has had plenty of access to see Scott in person.

Third, if you wait, the deal may go away. The Eagles may trade for a cornerback with another team. Maybe an UDFA in their camp impresses them. If the Jaguars then cut Scott, we get absolutely nothing. If you find it doubtful that a player is going to make the team, you should take the trade offer when you have a chance.

Not to mention it's possible they didn't like him even coming out in college and just poor play his rookie year and getting beat out by undrafted and 7th rounders proved what they thought. Then when the offer for a 6th for a guy likely to not make the roster was icing on the cake. Houston has a much higher pff grade as well lol. I don't see what's not to like. Houston probably has as good of a chance to make the team as Scott did

"Jameson Houston | Jacksonville Jaguars CB | NFL and PFF stats | PFF" https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jameson-houston/25642

"Josiah Scott | Philadelphia Eagles CB | NFL and PFF stats | PFF" https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josiah-scott/55634

(05-19-2021, 06:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(05-19-2021, 06:47 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: First, they have tape on Scott. Do you really think Scott will look significantly different in person than on tape? Do the cameras lie? If the Jaguars didn't like his height, is that going to magically change by bringing him to camp?

Second, while I suspect Meyer probably signs off on all trades, my impression is that Meyer is focused on the starters and other key players. I believe the third stringers and the bottom of the 90 man roster are primarily handled by Baalke and his scouts. Baalke was with the team last year and has had plenty of access to see Scott in person.

Third, if you wait, the deal may go away. The Eagles may trade for a cornerback with another team. Maybe an UDFA in their camp impresses them. If the Jaguars then cut Scott, we get absolutely nothing. If you find it doubtful that a player is going to make the team, you should take the trade offer when you have a chance.

The bolded is where we depart philosophically.

This is the kind of lazy evaluation by incoming regimes I hate - and it is akin to Caldwell cutting Daryl Smith when he still had 4 very productive seasons to offer, but the past season's tape showed signs of Smith declining.

I believe that if you have the rights to a player whose upside and value may not be realized viewing limited tape, you better do your damn homework on the athlete as it is available to you. And when the flesh and blood player is available for evaluation, that's the proper way to evaluate them.

I don't remember Smiths play declining, and I don't think Caldwell seen that on tape. Caldwell just wanted a younger team and admitted later on making the mistake of cutting Smith.