(05-19-2021, 08:26 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Tebow actually doing anything good on the field for this football team would make this an amazing move. And I'd cheer it on effusively and incredulously.

Odds of that happening?

I think I'm more likely to win the lottery, be bitten by a shark, and get struck by lightning all in the same day.
If Oliver does anything worthy of a sidebar mention in Baltimore, this is going to be a major black eye for Meyer.
In fact, it probably already is.

Yeah, it already is. All Urban/Baalke has on Oliver is hear'say because the dude has been hurt. So, you kick a guy out of the building in year 2, in a position of need, without really knowing where he is? Has Urbs seen him practice? I doubt it. Sure. we have limited tape on the guy, with bad qbs throwing to him. Why not hang on to a guy through camp, who might ACTUALLY help the team @ TE. I dont get the Oliver move at all.

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(05-18-2021, 10:52 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:

(05-18-2021, 04:52 PM)RicoTx Wrote: Well, and this:

“Everyone’s saying ‘oh he’s finally doing what he should’ve done 10 years ago by switching to tight end.’ Y’all, we were with him on the Jets. They tried to switch him to tight end, he wasn’t good. That’s what you do in college. ‘Oh they’ll just use him as a Taysom Hill player.’ Tim ran a 4.8, Taysom Hill runs a 4.4. They’re just two totally different players. Tim is a good dude and I hope the best for him but it’s a sideshow. That’s what it will be come training camp time. I think it kind of undercuts, undermines what Urban Meyer is trying to build. I’m not saying… maybe he makes the team, maybe he doesn’t but it’s going to take away from the task at hand which is trying to put together the most competitive roster in camp.

“I’m sure there’s going to be players, as someone who’s gone through training camp with Tim, there’s going to be players rolling their eyes at how much attention the fourth or fifth string tight end gets. It’s going to piss people off. As a result, it’s going to affect locker room chemistry, like it did with us with the Jets. Not because there’s animosity towards Tim, but there’s animosity toward the coverage Tim receives. I think that’s a stupid move.”

LOL

He's probably just a 'hater'.

Probably.  Just a chump who couldn't play jealous of the shine another player who was better than him was getting.  And all he said was that some players felt a certain way about a guy getting coverage that outranked his perceived ability.  True enough.  But all those guys were chumps who couldn't play, either.  *Why don't they get to build their brand?*  *Why does he get to?*  Such a bunch of childish nonsense.  Most of the anonymous whiners were probably flotsam that got cut.  And the rest were bottom feeders on the Jets.  The Jets!  I bet it kills McElroy that Tebow is more well known as a broadcaster, too.   I'll take Jeff Lageman's word over Greg McElroy's about team dynamics every time.

I don't want to be in the position of defending Tebow.  Was he a good NFL qb?  No.  Was he ever the answer for the Jags at qb1, 2, or 3?  No. (But was he really worse than anyone we've had since Garrard?  Except maybe Minshew.)  Is he going to be the answer at TE?  No.  Could he be a contributor?  Very doubtful.  But the difference between me and the half dozen or so of you who keep whipping this dead horse is that I don't begrudge him one last shot at the NFL and it apparently galls you.  It doesn't bother me in the least that he's getting a shot (maybe) based on his relationship with Urban.

I do not care what fans of other teams think.  I do not care what the national sports media think.  Do not want their approval and do not need their respect.  We'll get respect when the Jaguars win on a consistent basis, when they rip victories away from the teams from the vaunted media megamarkets.  Why any of you would care to have the approval of fans and talking heads who know no more than you do (and in some cases less) from NY, Cleveland, Washington, Philadelphia, and LA, etc., is beyond me.  By and large, those cities' teams have been big piles of steaming mediocrity for a very long time.  (Except: Giants window during the Coughlin/Manning years.  Eagles good team for about 3 years under Pedersen.) But, hey, enjoy your Festivus while I'm enjoying all the good, new players and coaching staff we got.

What a hot take, LOL. Hm, wouldn't Tim be a starter on a bad team then? THE JETS, as you phrase it. Dude couldn't crack the starting lineup 8 years ago, on a terrible Jets team. Who cares what the players even think... Can he play? NO

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