(05-22-2021, 02:58 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(05-22-2021, 02:47 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: Okay, I get it, you either don't understand or don't believe in draft value or don't understand the marginal value of a high round running back compared to those taken later. I won't bother you further on this.

No really I understand what you're saying but I think you guys are stuck in this drafting for need versus drafting for value debate and how to maximize the total value of all of your picks. 

And that's an interesting academic discussion but in the real world we have a coach who says I have a vision for the type of team I want to build and I want this particular player.  The chef gets to select the ingredients to make the dish he wants to make, and you're not the chef, so who are you to tell him what ingredients he needs to make his dish?

Beyond that I think there is a large marginal difference between Travis Etienne and the next best running back.  I don't subscribe to the theory that you never draft a running back in the first round because you can find them in later rounds.  History shows the best running backs are drafted in the first round and the next best running backs are drafted in the second round and so on and so on.  Same as any other position.

Just because Meyer gets to make the picks doesn't mean he's correct about who he's taking, or that he's implementing the optimal strategy. What is your point regarding that, anyway?

As for the marginal difference between Etienne and a running back taken later, you're probably right about there being a significant difference between their overall abilities, but that doesn't say anything about their overall ability to help the team win. If Etienne looks really good because of Lawrence that's not a good thing, that's a bad thing, you want players taken in the first round that make a difference, not guys who get made to look good by their QB.

Now, if Etienne is a Barry Sanders or something like that, I'll eat my words, but from what I've seen of him, he's a one cut and go guy without a lot of wiggle, and with decent speed. If he has better vision than Fournette then that's good, but it doesn't mean he's a good pick, even if he has good stats for a few seasons.

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