(05-30-2021, 10:59 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-30-2021, 10:32 AM)Tank Commander Wrote: 1. Then you choose to omit things or misremember what happened. You failed to mentions Elway's bad talent evaluation or desire to get rid of Tebow during the 2011 season until it was brought up.

2. Irrelevant. It really doesn't matter why Elway wanted to get rid of Tebow. The fact is that he did get want to get rid of him and his behavior and actions indicate such. It's actually quite normal for a new GM to come in and want to clean house on the actions of previous GMs' so not sure why it's important to you what those reasons were. 

3. You yourself admit that Elway has a problem identifying talent. Someone who knew what he was doing in terms of the QB position doesn't trade up for Paxton Lynch and pass up on Dak Prescott or miss identifying Pat Mahomes as a must get.  This puts Elway's evaluation of the QB position in the modern game in question. He's just not great at evaluating just like Michael Jordan is a horrible talent evaluator despite being the greatest player ever.

4. Is irrelevant because Elway did want to get rid of Tebow. He drafted his son's roommate, Brock Osweiiler in the 2nd round and signed Manning, which pretty much assured Tebow was gone given Tebow's 1st round salary. It was obvious to every other team that Elway wanted to get rid of Tebow so why on earth would anyone pay a high price to get him.

5. Still odd that you bring up McNown and Ponder. Both are smaller and frailer and only a little bit athletic. Different body types and players. And neither has won at any level college or pro. So I can only assume you picked those two for one reason as a comp for Tebow.

The average NFL completion rate is 66%. 

Tebow's 46% completion rate in 2011 is all any GM would ever need to move on from him. 
Every single other speculation, excuse , or "reason" is completely unnecessary as well as vastly secondary in nature to that statistic.

Different type of QB. Tebow played the read option, run heavy offense as a Game Manger QB. They basically almost played a wishbone offense with an occasional pass. The most important thing is always win-loses. Stats will differ depending on different systems, etc. His completion rate in college was 66% for a 2 time national championship team so let's not pretend that he can't throw. Even Peyton Manning in his first full season was only 56%. At the time during their 2011 playoff run the read option was a new paradigm offense in the NFL but a couple years later was followed by the read options with RGIII in Washington, Kapernick in San Fran and others. It was just ahead of it's time.

Your beloved Hall of Fame Terry Bradshaw had a 45% completion rate in 1974 when the Steelers won the Super Bowl.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...adTe00.htm

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