Quote:all excellent questions

 

1) personally if i had a choice at 3 i'd take teddy but i don't see him getting past 2 i think houston will take their pick of the qbs and pick him

 

you then have carr who i don't think will make it past 20 though i would have a tough think about him in the second ( i think arizona will snatch him up to sit behind carson palmer like green bay with aaron rodgers)

 

After that point i watch the qbs and it sadly boils down to the fact that i don't think they are good value (those that i have watched garropollo murray mettenberger aj... logan thomas i know nothing about ) for what we would need to get them

mett and garropollo i would take in the 3rd i think they will go early second

aj i wouldn't take above the late 3rd or 4th, i think he will go in the mid second or 3rd 

 

it boils down to, from what I have seen, the qb i have the most faith in to be a solid starter is fales.

He has the mental game, he has the pocket presence and he can make any throw you want with excellent accuracy within 20 yards. His main problem is an inability to drive it down the field and lacking arm strength, however i think that could be improved with better footwork and proper conditioning. Nonetheless he hits regularly within the strike zone and has experience in a prostyle offense. At the mid 4th he is a snip and i feel he could come into our offense within 6 weeks of the regular season and improve on henne.

 

I'm not saying he is a franchise guy but the offense we play is lots of short to intermediate passes and quick reads which is fales strengths i feel we are a good home for him and if he doesn't work out... we've lost a mid 4th

 

I understand qb is the major need but I would rather miss once on a mid rounder in the meantime and upgrade needs to give your eventual franchise guy a good set up than get another high rounder who we feel obligated to give chances too which then costs your franchise three years and a (as far as I can tell) good gm his job

 

 

3)moncrief was a little bit of wishful thinking on my part. I wanted to take him in the 3rd but I couldn't justify taking a receiver that high or passing on a centre in the 3rd. that being said i think he will slide into the 3rd at least

i think alot of teams will go for wideouts in the first between 16 and 32 . It's such a deep class i think there will be a big cluster of receivers taken like beckham benjamin etc. I think there are enough of them that moncrief will get left out of that first surge. I then think that because of the wideout group a few of the first round dt's de's and cb's will slide out of the first and so will take up alot of the early bidding a the top of the second along with the need for qbs. Then you come back to that 16-32 range where many of those guys have just taken a wideout so can't justify taking a second.

Which means guys like moncrief who are good but just out of that top group could feasibly slide to the 3rd-4th.

 

I think Carr COULD fall to the second round-at least lower than Az's pick in the first round, but I don't think he'll make it to 39th overall in the second.

 

I am not inclined to believe Arizona would take Carr in the first.

 

Even with Carson Palmer and in a tough division, they still finished 10-6 and missed the playoffs by a tiebreaker.  I think they will go more immediate needs in this draft.  Specifically, this is a pretty deep T draft, and Arizona has desperate need at that position, especially given the pass rushers in that division.  I would have to think if Taylor Lewan is somehow on the board when they pick, they'll be all over him before they get a QB to sit behind Palmer.

 

As far as your WR analysis, I can see teams in the bottom of the first round (SF, Seattle, New England, Cleveland, KC,) possibly going WR in the first.  But there is also an axiom that the deeper a draft class is, the lower WRs tend to be drafted.  Pundits have indicated this is a very deep draft class, so we'll see how true this axiom is.  If somehow we wound up with Moncrief in the 3rd round, I think I'd be pretty happy.

 

I think Az...maybe Cleveland at Indy's pick (26, IIRC) represents the last chances Carr will be taken in the first round, barring a trade up by a team at the top half of the 2nd round who missed out on a QB in the first.

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