(06-24-2021, 05:03 PM)Dimson Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 04:56 PM)Ronster Wrote: Well as a former drug addict I can easily say, all of this is patently false. You start off by experimenting with some friends at school because its "cool", then the next thing you know you are stealing to support your habit that by now is almost completely out of your control. You have NO IDEA on what you are talking about.

I am an alcoholic myself so I do know what I am talking about. I have been through rehab and I had the chance to talk to many addicts, so I do indeed know what I am talking about. If you steal and go to jail, you don't go to jail because you took drugs, you go to jail because you stole. It is no different than if you steal so you can buy you some booze. You don't go to jail because you drink booze, you go to jail because you stole from someone. Stop comparing victimless crimes with committing crimes to support your victimless crime. Two every different things.

So in other words, you are unlike (or rather just like) commie-la Harris.  Rather than address the issue at hand just ignore the "root cause" of the issue.

Is it a "victimless" crime when a person chooses to use money to put chemicals in their body rather than provide a healthy meal to their child, or would that be child abuse/endangerment?  Is it a "victimless" crime if someone uses what money they have to put chemicals in their body rather than provide shelter for their children?

I have seen it with my own eyes.

I hired a guy to take care of my lawn because I'm lazy sometimes and my mower was broken down.  He did a great job at first, but I started noticing that he was losing weight at an alarming rate.  He then started asking for "advances" for his work.  Pretty soon me mentioned that his family "wasn't going to have much of a Thanksgiving dinner" because they couldn't afford it.  My wife and I gave them some groceries to help them out.  The last straw was when he called us up one morning asking if he could "borrow" some money.  Reluctantly we said "yes" and when he showed up to get it it was pretty clear that he was "in need of a fix".  Pretty soon he started to not show up when he was supposed to, we got excuses of "broken equipment" and later found out that he was selling his equipment.  We ended up firing him because he wasn't doing what we were paying him to do.  He ended up getting evicted from the home that they were renting and last time I saw him he was mowing grass with a cheap push mower (not new).

The guy (to my knowledge) never stole anything from anybody, yet his family had to suffer because of his "victimless" crime.  To this day I don't know if the guy is even alive or in jail anymore.

My point is, just because (to my knowledge) he never stole from anybody it doesn't make his crime (buying and using illegal drugs) "victimless".

There is no such thing as a "victimless crime".

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