(06-25-2021, 07:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 06:37 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: You said that "If you pull a gun and shot it at someone, it would definitely be a crime".  Just because one person shot towards somebody else there is no victim, so how can it be a crime?

You said that it was a crime and justified because "the intent was to shoot someone".  How do you get people in court to prove "intent" without an arrest?  If there was not "victim" (ie. nobody was harmed) then by your logic there was never any crime committed.

If I pull out a gun and put it to my head is it a crime? Am I victim or perpetrator? If I shoot myself in the foot is it battery? If I say I'm going to shoot myself is it assault? If I shoot myself in the head and die is it murder?

It was a matter of time before this got brought up.  I was going to chime in but had so much fun watching people debate Dimsom.  

I can see, or not see on the news, “we’ve got a jumper!”  But no one cares.  There’s no victim.  Unless he does jump.  But he didn’t jump at the time, so we let it go, oh [BLEEP]; he jumped. Let’s save the victim or the murderer?

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