(07-05-2021, 10:01 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(07-05-2021, 08:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: In 2006 Americans opposed same sex marriage by a 60/40 split. In 2019 fewer than half of Conservative Republicans supported same sex marriage. Call it what you want, but you know the truth.

Who cares? Unlike race and gender, marriage is an actual social construct. The Supreme Court never should have ruled in favor of gay marriage in the first place. It should have simply replaced marriage with civil unions and limited the government's role to simple legal practices. Anyone who can consent can have a civil union with whomever they want. Period. 

The primary opposition to gay marriage comes almost exclusively from religious conservatives, who believe marriage is a religious practice and ordained by God. you aren't going to move that needle, and linking religious objections to conservatism is missing the point. Additionally, citing all Americans in 2006 is not the same as citing conservative Republicans, so you're using a flawed comparison to make it appear like nothing has changed. Compare apples to apples, and it will become clear that the trend it towards acceptance. Want me to flesh that data out for you, too? Care to concede your point when I take the time to do the math? Or are the goal posts going to move again?

The simple fact of the matter is that the celebration of LGBTQ+ has nothing to do with righting a wrong. It's textbook deconstructionism. You know this is true. Well, you should.

You're welcome, as always, to do what you like. The end result will be the same, homosexuals have been second class citizens in this Country for almost all of its history and though that has recently trended the opposite direction (hence the 2006 stat showing where we came from) the most resistance to it today is still from Conservative circles (the 2019 number). I guess I should've included the additional stat that all Americans as of 2019 now support gay marriage by a 70/30 split, my fault for leaving that out. In 15 years we saw a tremendous flip in our perception of homosexuality, but my point is that everyone else pretty much accepts homosexuality except for just more than half of Conservatives many of whom are, as you say, frequently Evangelical Republicans, no fruit required. As a Libertarian I support your point that government should have no role in marriage; as a human being I cannot in good conscience condone excluding homosexuals from the institution as they have been for the last 240 years of American history.

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