(07-09-2021, 01:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: SeldomRite

(07-09-2021, 12:24 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: Ekeler is a good player, though I think you may think he's better than I think he is. However, if you take a running back in the first round he needs to come out of the gate as a top ten back in the league. Etienne needs to have a 1500 yards 10 TD type of season (rushing and receiving combined for both of those stats) to justify that kind of draft position. If Etienne is just a decent back, and not a great running back then then Meyer made a really stupid pick.

(07-09-2021, 01:18 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: And Robinson wasn't even pro bowl at his position.

1500 yards and 10 TD would be what should be expected from a first round running back with 17 games. A first round running back should be a top ten player at his position with the low value placed on running backs. A first round running back needs to be a great player, not someone that needs a lack of production excused.

Regarding the bolded - 
While I despise the drafting of RBs in early rounds, your perspective of draft position justification is arbitrary and merely your own view. 
Etienne doesn't "need"  to achieve those numbers to justify his selection. 
That's something you've invented and I guarantee you the people that made the decision to draft him do not agree. It actually seems pretty clear they see him as a cog in a wheel of the scheme. An integral missing piece of a puzzle, but not a production workhorse.
 Lots of different ways to value players. 

It will be interesting to see if he is integral enough to "justify" the pick in the minds of fans, but I have a feeling you are going to be disappointed based on what you think "should be expected. 

Regarding the red: The pro bowl hasn't been a valid indicator of a player's worth for many, many years.

You're right, I don't cut the roster, and I have no doubt they'll talk him up until the day he's cut (it'll happen eventually one way or another), but there is a reality that cost carries expectation with it, and a first round pick is a high cost.

If your point is we have bozos running the show that don't understand value or its importance, you may be right. It may even be that you think they'll think a guy with low production is still valuable. That may be right, too, but I doubt it. The main way of measuring the value of a player is in production, though I'm sure if he's really making a difference without high production there will be some way of statistically measuring that, too.

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