(08-14-2021, 03:50 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(08-14-2021, 03:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: *sigh* You're right, socialism has nothing to do with the government owning the means of production. That's just me making stuff up again.

Sorry, I should have been more focused in my response. Characterizing Jacksonville as "fairly socialist" just because JEA is community-owned is akin to describing the 2020 Jacksonville Jaguars as 'fairly championship' because they won a single game.

Besides, JEA is fee-based service. Don't pay your utility bill for a month and see how much of that Bernie Sanders water and electricity flows into your home.

Football games are black and white. You either win or lose. Nothing in the economy or the government is really that black and white.

And yes, the JEA will cut off your electricity if you don't pay your bill. Just like the Soviets had no problem throwing you in a gulag if they thought you were hoarding. If you're trying to be nice and help the poor, that's social welfare.  Socialists want to government to own and control stuff.  Some of them want that so they can be nice and help the poor, and those people are into both socialism and social welfare.  But many do not. Many just want the control.

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