(08-17-2021, 01:40 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(08-17-2021, 01:33 PM)copycat Wrote: What the heck are you talking about?  It is possible to disagree with what they were saying and not accuse them of being liars.  This mentality right there is why we are so divided.

Well the video was from a couple of hours ago, so he couldn't have watched it yesterday, so I hoped he just was thinking it was a video from yesterday and hasn't watched it yet. Either way it's easy to believe that Krystal and Saagar are being genuine and clear eyed. If Lucky2last really did watch it and thinks they're just lying then okay, all we can do is watch and see.

You are right. I only listened to about 5 seconds of that video and thought it was yesterday's. It opened the exact same way. To my knowledge, I have never thought of Krystal and Saagar as liars. I think they get some things right and others wrong. That's how I feel about every news pundit. Breaking points adds a unique voice to American journalism, and I watch most of their content, now including the link you posted in this thread. I appreciate the strength of their convictions. This doesn't mean I need to agree with them. 

In this case, I don't respect Krystal and Saagar's military acumen. If they came with facts that supported their position, I'd be more open to it. Normally they are pretty good about out. However, this segment and the one I referenced yesterday, is based almost entirely on emotions. I can get  behind them criticizing the military industrial complex. However, I just don't think they understand enough about the logistics of war to say whether or not this was done correctly. This withdrawal was done terribly. Period. I don't believe that was on accident, either. 

To put this simply, I don't believe Biden. I don't know what's going on with the news, but this isn't something Biden is doing unilaterally. I don't think he does ANYTHING based on his own initiative. Period. The dude is basically a Manchurian candidate. He is the guy that is most likely to do the bidding of the people that funded his campaign. If he's getting out, they want him out, and hearing Krystal and Saagar sing his praises makes me want to vomit. I just don't believe it. For whatever reason, the time in Afghanistan has run it's course, but we will end up back there once terrorism rears it's head again.

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