(09-08-2021, 03:03 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-08-2021, 02:29 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Wrong... as usual.

What does it take to build a solar panel?  What is it made of?  How much petroleum goes into it?  What do those materials do to the earth that they are discarded in?

What about the batteries required to store the DC power from solar panels?  Do you just discard lead/acid or lithium batteries in a landfill?  How are those batteries made?

Explain how harvesting and manufacturing the materials for those two products (solar panels and batteries) is not damaging to the climate.  Explain how discarding those materials is not damaging to the climate.

Wrong.. as usual.
Of course it could take fossil fuels to create new solar panels, depending on the place they are made. Many factories use their own panels to power their process. There are costs in the mining process as well. Regardless, if properly installed, those panels will offset that initial input by a large factor.

As for batteries, there are no batteries in my home setup.

Discarding materials only harms the climate in terms of the carbon emissions of the garbage truck.  Once it's buried, that panel won't do anything to the atmosphere.

Care to point out the "many factories" that use their own panels to power their process?  Where exactly are these factories?

If you don't have batteries in your home setup, then it's a lot more inefficient.  The "raw" DC power coming from solar panels has to be regulated and inverted (converted) to AC power to be used in a home.  There is a lot of energy waste in that process and in order to be done to sufficiently power a home "on the fly" is very unpractical.  It might make you "feel good" that you are using solar, but in the long run you are wasting more energy.

Your idea of "climate" seems to be limited to air.  What about the earth?  Would you want to eat food grown on ground that has toxic waste buried beneath it?  Would you let animals graze land that has these harmful chemicals buried beneath it?

Discarding waste into the earth is much more damaging to the climate (environment) than burning coal, wood, natural gas, etc.

Your democrat leftist dream of "clean energy" does not exist.

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