(09-09-2021, 03:41 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-08-2021, 10:34 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Oh for heaven's sake.

He's saying I should be concerned that there are energy losses in my power inverter.  There are losses, of course, but this is a loss of clean, free energy that most people don't collect in the first place.

The central concern is CO2 in the atmosphere.  If the energy you're using is from fossil fuels, to minimize CO2 you have to maximize your efficiency.  But if the energy you're using is from clean sources, it emits no CO2 regardless of if you use it efficiently or inefficiently.  Now once you factor money in, yes, efficient is better than inefficient, but if you're only looking at mitigating climate change, it doesn't matter.

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(09-09-2021, 10:45 AM)copycat Wrote: We looked into solar not long ago but at our age there is no return on investment.  The cost has to come down dramatically before the average person can afford it.

We expect to break even in about 10 years.  Many people aren't planning on staying in their home that long.  We were.

That's not at all what I am saying.

1.  Directly regulating and inverting DC power to AC power is not efficient and not very cost effective, thus it's not a viable alternative to other energy sources.  However, that's not what I was really getting at.

2.  You and other liberals like you talk about "man made climate change" all the time then cite CO2 emissions.  The climate is more than the air, it's also the land that we rely on for food and the water that we drink.  You never answered my questions.  Would you graze animals on land with toxic chemicals buried beneath it then slaughter and eat those animals?  Would you grow crops in land that has toxic chemicals buried beneath it?  Would you drink water from a well where toxic chemicals have been buried?

Disposing of solar products after their "useful" life is more hazardous to the environment than using natural gas for the production of electricity not to mention the efficiency of natural gas is far greater than solar/wind/hydro combined.  The energy created by solar/wind/hydro might be "cleaner" as it's produced, but creating the components and disposing of them after their useful life is far more damaging to the "climate" (environment).

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