(10-04-2021, 03:04 PM)enigma Wrote:

(10-04-2021, 02:21 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: This is being overlooked and is a great point.

It was talked about by several ex players as something they had never heard of before because he's supposed to be the leader of these men. "Hey guys. You head back on the plane alone but I'm gonna hang back and party it up. Good job out there tonight"

And this right here sways my decision to have him ousted solidly. The absolute disrespect and lack of professionalism completely diminishes any semblance of leadership he may have wielded with this team by not joining the team back home.

I couldn't care less about his social indiscretions, even if I oppose them, but the fact that this occurred after him not joining the team on the plane is 100% terrible optics - and most likely diminishes what little authority he had within the locker room. Worst case scenario, this whole thing unravels the team chemistry and players completely disregard any sort of professional structure that NFL teams normally employ and things go off the rails. 

I'm not a hater of Urban but I don't see how he can maintain player trust and authority in guiding this team, especially when it seems like he's about to navigate some choppy waters with his personal life.

(10-05-2021, 11:08 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/14...1660084243

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/14...4327600135

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/14...7028740096

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/14...0434600983

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/14...2275810318

Not sounding good