(10-05-2021, 06:45 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I really couldn't care less about the whole thing.  Social media and the MSM have blown it so out of proportion.

For the record I am neither a "Meyer hater" or a "Meyer supporter".

For those that say that he should have flown home with the team, what exactly does that accomplish?  When the plane lands players (and coaches) get into their own rides and have a couple/few days off (this is coming off a Thursday night game).  It's not like they immediately go into meetings, practices, etc.

Players (and I assume coaches/staff) will "blow off some steam" however they want on their days off.

He didn't fly back because he was in his home state.  He was visiting a place that he owns and had some social media chick film him and post it to social media.

He was doing what any coach or player would do after a game with some time off afterwards, just blowing off steam.

It should have been a non-story but in today's world everything goes onto social media and is made to be what it isn't.  Then the "regular media" picks it up and "reports" it as "news".

I tend to agree.  I get that Urban is a polarizing figure and a lot of people already hate him so no matter what he does is going to bring about a completely disproportionate response.  But the insane level of outrage and moral posturing is so over the top.  At the end of the day he had a few too many drinks at the bar and got frisky with some hot blonde girl.  Great husband?  No.  But worthy of all this moral outrage?  Please.  Everyone on this board and in the media whining about how terrible of a human being he is for flirting with some chick at the bar would give up their left nut to have Bill Belicheck or Sean Payton coach this team.  Two guys who have actually cheated on their wives and forced to get divorced.  The same people would love to have a guy like Tyreek Hill on this team who beat the crap out of his pregnant girlfriend.  And dont forget our beloved Jalen Ramsey who dumped his pregnant girlfriend.  All of these are worse than flirting with a chick at the bar.  But no one would have a problem with those guys either on the team or coaching the team. This isn't about morality at all (cuz that doesnt exist in the NFL when wins are on the line).  It's just about not liking Urban.  Lots of people hate him and it's an easy shot to take right now.

I don't get the outrage over not flying home either.  All offseason all we heard about is Urban being in over his head because he is a college coach and is a rah-rah guy and how none of that would play in the NFL.  These are grown men that play for money, they aren't playing for school spirit.  But now all of a sudden these grown men can't handle a 2 hour plane ride back after a loss because they are feeling bad and need their coach to make them feel better?  That seems so weak.  And if he had stuck around and the only photos that came out were of him hugging his grandkids, the implication is it would still be outrageous cuz the team needed him?  That is so dumb.  

Maybe the guy ends up losing the locker room over this.  If so would make me think we have a lot of mentally weak players on the team but whatever.  Either way if he loses the team, I guess you have to get rid of him.  And then we can try to go after someone like Joe Brady.

At the end of the day though the only thing that matters is winning.  Even though we are 0-4, the team has dramatically improved with each week.  If they start winning, none of this stuff will matter.  And three months from now we'll look back at how stupid it is.  But if he can't turn things around and the wins dont come (whether because he just isnt good enough at the NFL level or if our team of grown men playing for money can't play well for a guy that doesn't fly home with them), he's a goner regardless.

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