(10-12-2021, 12:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(10-12-2021, 12:42 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: The man can get all the lap dances he wants, he's an adult and it's his own business.. The problem here is that he's leaving this team severely under-coached and mishandled.

This I can understand and debate. Everyone else keeps conflating pearl clutching with football. 

It’s really weird.

I don't know that I've seen too many people saying that this incident is cause for him to be fired. I've said that I find it creepy and inappropriate - but that's my personal belief.  Do I think the bar incident by itself should cause him to be fired or to resign in shame - no I don't, that's an issue between him and his wife and their family.  Do I think on top of everything else he's F'd up since he's been here that it shows terrible judgement - yes I do.  I've seen ex players and coaches state that it's "unheard of" for a coach to not fly home with the team, and that it was even worse after a bad loss and being winless.  Since I've never played in the NFL, and I'd venture to say no one here has, I'll defer to those ex players and coaches and their thoughts on that part of it. That being said, it's the football decisions (or lack of decisions) that make me think the Jags should move on from Urban.  Those gaffs have been documented in this thread and elsewhere, and it seems to me that Urban came into this thinking it would be different/easier than it's turned out to be and it's turning out to be much more work than he thought it would be.  He thought he wouldn't be second guessed as much, whether it was hiring Doyle, bringing Tebow in or just the personnel decisions and in-game decisions.  I don't see it getting any better, I don't see good judgement from him, and I don't want to waste more time waiting for him to decide that maybe he does have a lot to learn.....

---