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Are the jaguars good?

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(This post was last modified: 10-13-2021, 07:04 AM by SeldomRite. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-12-2021, 11:20 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 10:01 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: The Etienne pick was the one that made it clear Meyer doesn't have a clue and is a need guy. He wasn't drafting the player, he was drafting the role.
(Emphasis added)

But every player drafted fills a role-or at least is supposed to, assuming he makes the team.  There are no position less players, despite the contrived trend among pundits is to try to make a player or two just that (see Isaiah Simmons).

But that doesn't necessarily make the player a need pick in the traditional sense.

Every player should have an NFL role, otherwise there's no point in drafting them, that's an obvious tautology. When Meyer said he wanted Tooney but settled for Etienne he was actually saying he was taking someone to fill the Harvey role there regardless of ability, even if the guy was a running back with a lot of mileage and not a guy primarily known for his receiving ability.

When a team drafts players based on demonstrated ability, which is combination of college production correlating to NFL production (so taking a quarterback with a fullback's skillet, like Tebow, wouldn't apply) along with positional value and measurable athletic ability, rather than a fantasy about them filling out the roster in a perfect way to make some idiot's scheme work, then that's bap. The Jaguars have a bad tendency to ignore ability and start going into fantasy when they make their picks. Either that or they have no ability to observe demonstrated ability or assess positional value.

If they really just are terrible at evaluating talent then that's even worse than being a needs drafter, and there's no need to defend them.
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Are the jaguars good? - by icey14 - 10-03-2021, 06:55 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by TownCenterJag - 10-03-2021, 06:56 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by MarleyJag - 10-03-2021, 07:10 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Jagsfan32277 - 10-03-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by nejagsfan - 10-03-2021, 10:28 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by flgatorsandjags - 10-03-2021, 10:31 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by D6 - 10-05-2021, 12:43 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Mikey - 10-04-2021, 09:07 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by flsprtsgod - 10-04-2021, 09:08 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-04-2021, 10:27 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Jag88 - 10-03-2021, 07:21 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by icey14 - 10-03-2021, 07:22 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by RicoTx - 10-03-2021, 07:33 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Jags - 10-05-2021, 07:01 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by iHaunting Raven - 10-03-2021, 07:37 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by StrayaJag - 10-03-2021, 08:08 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by flsprtsgod - 10-03-2021, 09:48 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-03-2021, 09:53 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by JagFan81 - 10-04-2021, 09:13 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by OzJohnnie - 10-05-2021, 08:27 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-12-2021, 09:24 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by SeldomRite - 10-12-2021, 09:33 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-12-2021, 09:45 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by SeldomRite - 10-12-2021, 10:01 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-12-2021, 11:20 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by SeldomRite - 10-13-2021, 05:55 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-13-2021, 07:42 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by TheDuke007 - 10-05-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Upper - 10-03-2021, 10:33 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by NH3 - 10-04-2021, 06:39 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by JagsFanSince95 - 10-04-2021, 09:48 AM
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RE: Are the jaguars good? - by CinciJag - 10-05-2021, 12:51 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by ChrisJagBoy - 10-07-2021, 08:02 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-07-2021, 09:42 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Kane - 10-08-2021, 10:24 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by MoJagFan - 10-12-2021, 09:34 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by MoJagFan - 10-12-2021, 09:57 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-12-2021, 10:13 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Newton - 10-12-2021, 10:09 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by JagFan81 - 10-13-2021, 08:05 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-13-2021, 08:57 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by JagFan81 - 10-13-2021, 12:59 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-13-2021, 08:33 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by SeldomRite - 10-13-2021, 08:27 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by JagFan81 - 10-13-2021, 12:43 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by homebiscuit - 10-13-2021, 08:38 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-13-2021, 09:29 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by TheDuke007 - 10-14-2021, 12:55 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by homebiscuit - 10-13-2021, 09:19 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by MoJagFan - 10-13-2021, 09:37 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-13-2021, 08:02 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by snowwolf776 - 10-13-2021, 10:04 AM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Senor Fantastico - 10-13-2021, 12:34 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by icey14 - 10-13-2021, 04:46 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by MoJagFan - 10-13-2021, 06:35 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Jag88 - 10-13-2021, 08:20 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by MoJagFan - 10-13-2021, 09:35 PM
RE: Are the jaguars good? - by Bullseye - 10-13-2021, 10:18 PM
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