(10-29-2021, 08:02 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: (10-29-2021, 06:57 PM)Kane Wrote: So... Not bad?
I'm sure the usual suspects will sweep it under the rug.
Always wanted to blame the OL when Bortles and Minshew were bad at their jobs.
I remember specifically Glennon filling in and seeing much less pressure and sacks. The OL was the same but the veteran knew how to at least get rid of the ball and sense pressure. Foles in his limited snaps I think fared better too.
TLaw early on held the ball too long and was getting hammered and throwing a lot of INTs. As he improved so did the OL. Weird.
Don't think anyone is saying we have an all-star ol either. Just offering perspective and context. Which a lot of our posters probably don't even understand the concept or definition of the words.
You had me until you mentioned Foles. He didn't even make it a game.
He actually played a couple more later on if you remember the outrage for taking Minshew out, even though he was clearly regressing at that point. Or "figured out". Whatever.
Also, I was one of the outraged before anyone goes and digs up an old thread lol. Figured Minshew should just get the rest of the year as an interview.
Just saying, the smarter and/or more talented or at least tenured (seen a lot of snaps), QBs tend to navigate a pocket better, sense pressure better, and get rid of the ball quicker.
I mean if you hold the ball for 3.5+ seconds every play you're probably getting sacked/pressured a lot.
(10-29-2021, 08:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: (10-29-2021, 06:57 PM)Kane Wrote: So... Not bad?
I'm sure the usual suspects will sweep it under the rug.
Always wanted to blame the OL when Bortles and Minshew were bad at their jobs.
I remember specifically Glennon filling in and seeing much less pressure and sacks. The OL was the same but the veteran knew how to at least get rid of the ball and sense pressure. Foles in his limited snaps I think fared better too.
TLaw early on held the ball too long and was getting hammered and throwing a lot of INTs. As he improved so did the OL. Weird.
Don't think anyone is saying we have an all-star ol either. Just offering perspective and context. Which a lot of our posters probably don't even understand the concept or definition of the words.
LOL
wut?
Foles was victim to a blatant whiff by AJ Cann that effectively ended his tenure in Jax as soon as it began.
He played later on that season.
And we've already established that Cann is bad and our OL can definitely use some upgrades. Try not to get hemmed up on that one play and miss the entire point of my post. Better QBs, and yes Foles was a better QB than most we've had, don't hang the OL out to dry. And therefore when the board goes nuts about our terrible OL they aren't thinking about how the poor QB play may be linked to higher pressures and sacks.
