(11-29-2021, 02:04 PM)Khan Artist Wrote:

(11-29-2021, 01:03 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: With a competent staff we'd definitely be experiencing more success but how much I wonder. Unlike the clots who purposely tanked to get Luck there was nothing intentional about our 1-15 season last year.

Please stop.  This is absolutely ridiculous.  

We would have at least 4, maybe 5 wins now and Trevor would be looking a lot better if we hadn't shat the bed with the Urban Error.

Didn't I say we'd be experiencing more success or do you have a reading comprehension problem? 4 or 5 wins for the season sounds about right. I think Trevor would look a little better but I wonder how much of the accuracy issues are him and how much are the wide receivers. You don't typically see a franchise level QBs flat out miss guys in what should be easy throw scenarios.

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(11-29-2021, 01:31 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(11-29-2021, 01:03 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: With a competent staff we'd definitely be experiencing more success but how much I wonder. Unlike the clots who purposely tanked to get Luck there was nothing intentional about our 1-15 season last year.

I honestly don't know anymore. There's games where they keep it interesting, closely contested and have a chance towards the end of regulation to tie it up at least. Then there's games where they look woefully unprepared and get dismantled on the football field as a consequence. 

The general fear is that Urban Meyer lacks the overall professionalism and knowledge to achieve success consistently at this level and he's going to be underwhelming at best regardless of what's brought to this roster. I just don't like what I have seen and heard from him. 

It's not a good look. Him and his staff are clearly not on the same page on a week in and week out basis and the product on the football field indicates this. Lawrence should be showing more signs of progress but it's too sporadic. I think, again, when you go back and look at what worked on the road against the Bengals. What worked on the road in London against the Dolphins. What worked yesterday against the Falcons. 

Why is it so difficult for Meyer and Bevell to make that the normal gameplan? One week you're having this kid practice the spread and RPO, something he excelled at during his time with Clemson. Then, the next? He's under center too much and being asked to essentially win from the pocket with a lackluster pool of receiving options with the injury bug and no real chemistry established. 

They cannot seem to make up their minds. Even the best in the business at the QB position are given some kind of easy and comfortable selection of plays to start a game, build some rhythm and get the juices flowing with the QB and the rest of the offense. These guys just seem to overthink it at times or just find ways to derail themselves.

It's almost like they're afraid of having actual success on a consistent level offensively. Maybe too much ego involved. Not sure. What is for sure though is that Bevell and Meyer have mismanaged the living hell out of Lawrence's skillset, his strengths and the overall usage of James Robinson.

I kept hearing it and seeing it all day yesterday when the Falcons had the football and around the horn with the other games. You see a lot of natural "pick" plays being used to get guys open. You see a lot of easy plays underneath with crossers, hitches and swing passes to the safety valves (TE and RB). This team rarely seems to have anything like this going on for Lawrence. 

Then when you hear [BLEEP] coming out of Urban's mouth like "I don't know why Robinson was pulled for X amount of snaps" or "I don't micromanage" and "We should have it figured out by now" when not realizing what your players are capable of by now? It's insane. It's [BLEEP] week twelve. Not preseason. Not training camp. Not even the first month of the year. 

By now you should have already a general feel of what works, what doesn't work, who belongs on the roster next year, who doesn't and where you're at personnel wise to start making very, very simple decisions as far as who the hell needs to be riding the bench and who the hell needs to be getting more snaps and opportunities for next year's roster. 

This guy just flat out in more ways than one told the entire city, team, media and NFL that he's:

A. In over his [BLEEP] head.
B. Not doing his actual [BLEEP] job, which is to pretty much manage your personnel and coaching staff. Since, you know, that was apart of the deal with getting the job to begin with when interviewed by Khan?
C. He doesn't have any clue on how to gameplan effectively. 

This is going to be a long, long Winter. And it's going to be an even longer Spring and Summer regardless of who ends up coaching this team and running the general manager position. I say that, because, there's going to be sweeping coaching changes with his staff next year. He's going to throw Bevell and Schottenheimer under the bus for this year's incompetence and he's going to bring in two new goons to take up the mantle for his inability to coach a staff properly or make executive decisions when it comes to his own roster. 

That's [BLEEP] terrifying. This guy encompasses everything that was bad and wrong with Jack Del Rio, Gus Bradley and Doug Marrone on every single level. He needs to go. Before Lawrence basically ends up being the next Alex Smith.

I think the team was improving from a horrible start up until the London game. Since then it's been real choppy. The Bills game was obviously a fluke but overall the defense hasn't played that badly even though they've had some periods where they can't seem to get off the field. I think a better coach would have gotten us over the top in a few games where it seemed like we were right there. I'm gonna say we'd have won 4 or 5 games this year but I think the arrow would have been trending up going into the offseason.

At this point it feels Gus Bradley era hopeless. As flawed as JDR was as a coach, I'd take him any day over what we're seeing today.

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