(12-01-2021, 03:39 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(12-01-2021, 12:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I honestly don't care whether we remain in the top 10 or not. After Hutchinson and Thibodeaux, the talent level is pretty much the same all the way to about #20. That isn't to say there won't be talent available, there will definitely be. It's more a testament to how deep this draft is at a variety of positions. IMO, I trade back no matter what. I take the highest offer no matter what it is, because if we are sitting at #3 and Hutchinson and Thibodeaux are off the board, I don't want that pick at all. There is no one available worthy of the pick, which would match the value of the selection. If the best offer we get would be to move down to #15, I take it, because the players left on the board match the value of the #15 pick. I don't see an elite player that would match the #3 pick. Everyone after Hutchinson and Thibodeaux would seem like a reach, imo.

So then you would be fine with a trade down like the Raiders did in 2013, where they went down from 3 to 11, getting only a 2nd round pick in return?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2013/story...de-tracker

I recall the Raiders getting bashed by some for getting so little in return for such a move.  I can't imagine Baalke would fare any better, even though most of this board have clamored for the team to trade back for years.

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(12-01-2021, 12:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I honestly don't care whether we remain in the top 10 or not. After Hutchinson and Thibodeaux, the talent level is pretty much the same all the way to about #20. That isn't to say there won't be talent available, there will definitely be. It's more a testament to how deep this draft is at a variety of positions. IMO, I trade back no matter what. I take the highest offer no matter what it is, because if we are sitting at #3 and Hutchinson and Thibodeaux are off the board, I don't want that pick at all. There is no one available worthy of the pick, which would match the value of the selection. If the best offer we get would be to move down to #15, I take it, because the players left on the board match the value of the #15 pick. I don't see an elite player that would match the #3 pick. Everyone after Hutchinson and Thibodeaux would seem like a reach, imo.

So then you would be fine with a trade down like the Raiders did in 2013, where they went down from 3 to 11, getting only a 2nd round pick in return?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2013/story...de-tracker

I recall the Raiders getting bashed by some for getting so little in return for such a move.  I can't imagine Baalke would fare any better, even though most of this board have clamored for the team to trade back for years.

Honestly, yes. I don't take much stock in the NFL trade value chart. If we got a 2nd round pick to move to #11, that's another potential starter we could add to our lineup and I wouldn't have to reach for a player at #3 that I don't believe warrants such a high selection. Would I try to get more? Of course, but if it didn't happen, I take the deal and move forward. Honestly, if I stay at #3, I'm probably gonna be taking from the same group of players I would be picking from had I gone to #11 anyway. I just don't see any elite players other than Hutchinson and Thibodeaux that don't have red flags like a history of injuries. I refuse to select a player that high who is coming off a season ending injury or who has a history of not being able to stay on the field.

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