(12-01-2021, 11:38 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(12-01-2021, 11:06 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Honestly, yes. I don't take much stock in the NFL trade value chart. If we got a 2nd round pick to move to #11, that's another potential starter we could add to our lineup and I wouldn't have to reach for a player at #3 that I don't believe warrants such a high selection. Would I try to get more? Of course, but if it didn't happen, I take the deal and move forward. Honestly, if I stay at #3, I'm probably gonna be taking from the same group of players I would be picking from had I gone to #11 anyway. I just don't see any elite players other than Hutchinson and Thibodeaux that don't have red flags like a history of injuries. I refuse to select a player that high who is coming off a season ending injury or who has a history of not being able to stay on the field.

FYI, Rich Eisen had us picking 2nd in the draft order as of yesterday.

Of the teams picking below us that need a QB, the Eagles (possibly), the Giants (possibly), Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Denver and Washington (19th IIRC) are all on the list.   I think 19 is too far down to move in one trade.  If we somehow traded back 2-3 times and wound up at 19, I might be okay with that, but to move back that far, we'd better end up with a ton of day two picks when all is said and done.

Question:  As I recall, your aversion to Neal stems from doubt that he can play LT in the NFL, even though he just gave up his one sack of the year this past weekend.  Buut we're actualy better at LT with Robinson than we are at RT with Taylor.  Neal has experience playing some RT, and he has the build for it.  If you were sold he could play RT at a high level, would you consider him at 3?

To me, the urgency we felt to upgrade the OL remains, and that makes me more open to Neal as a possibility.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the Eagles or Giants using high picks on a QB. I think they're gonna give their current QB's one more year. Atlanta and Carolina are desperate for a new QB. They would be most likely to trade up imo. I see New Orleans re-signing Jameis Winston. He started to hit his stride before the injury. They just need to get him some receivers to throw to. Call me crazy, but I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be a Steeler next year and Roethlisberger will retire. Big Ben is a shell of what he once was. His arm looks completely "ragged out." Denver is starting to look like a pretty good team right now, so they may stick with Teddy. Washington desperately needs a QB as well. 

No. I don't believe in taking RT's that early. Good RT's can be had much later in the draft. We wasted a high second round pick on Jawaan Taylor and look what we got. I'm looking in that 3rd to 4th round range to find an OT, since I don't see any LT's in this draft worth wasting a pick on in rounds 1 or 2. One player I'm interested in is Max Mitchell of Louisiana he's been a key contributor to the team's great success this season and he has extensive experience at both OT positions. 

I'm not a fan of Neal at all. He's not even an option for me. I really don't think he offers much more than Robinson does as a LT. Yes, we screwed ourselves by not replacing our OT's much earlier when we realized they were not the players we drafted them to be, but as long as we keep Warhop, I don't see much success with who ever we put in there. He can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He needs to be replaced with someone competent. I still believe that franchising Robinson is a real option. He's at least serviceable. Taylor has always been and will continue to be a turnstile at RT until he is replaced.

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