(01-11-2022, 08:21 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: We are not talking about whether or not the physician is wrong, dude. Find one place in this thread where I said the physician is WRONG that Saget didn't die from the vaccine. I don't know what caused Saget's death and would be a fool to suggest otherwise. I am simply saying Saget's physicians CAN'T know if Bob Saget's death was related to the vaccine, at least not based on what's been released to us. There are a few rare diseases that are associated with vaccinations and can be tested with a blood test, but this isn't the case, based on what's been released (on a side note, those rare instances are what exposed the safe and effective Johnson and Johnson vaccine, but I digress). I simply asked you how one would KNOW that his death is unrelated to the vaccine. You can't answer. The truth is, outside of a few special instances, that's not the type of thing a coroner or physician is going to be able to answer. They don't have that capability. Therefore, it would be foolish of them to state anything definitively, and, if they do, it's because they believe it, not because they KNOW it.

So now I am challenging YOUR world view. I started by asking you a question about how a physician could possibly KNOW that, to which you declined to answer (because you don't know it). Then I asked what makes a physician qualified to answer such a complicated question, to which you laughed (because you don't know it). You don't answer tough questions because you are unqualified, but still smug somehow. The truth is that you don't know anything. Neither does that physician. Neither do I. Not about that. There's a probability the vaccine caused his death, albeit small. As dumb as you think Ronster is for saying Saget's death was caused by the vaccine, I feel doubly so about you claiming it wasn't. You don't know, but you should at least know better.

I wrote this, then decided to find where his physicians said it was definitely unrelated. Couldn't find anything. Could you post your source to I can legitimately be annoyed with these doctors instead of what you say about them?

Through this whole process, I am most dumbfounded by the number of unknowns we treat as fact.

Physicians and other medical providers are not research scientists. They are front line workers trying to treat and mitigate sick patients. Their info on current and new diseases comes from journals, medical affiliations, seminars, colleges and gov agencies like the CDC, NIH, etc., and even drug reps. When a gov agency is politicized or compromised, they will relay to thier patients the info they are told till it either changes, or begins to make no sense. Unfortunately, the herd mentality exists in medicine as well. And if your herd is being steered by a chosen narrative and not the data, then look out.

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