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Trump vs Desantis

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(01-19-2022, 09:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(01-19-2022, 08:24 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: That's what made Trump a better leader than most of our politicians. Obviously, the dude was flawed. He was a huge narcissist. However, he wanted to be loved by the people, which is a giant step up from what we currently have. The proof is in the pudding. Outside of the establishment who were relentless in attacking him, almost every facet of our lives was better under Trump. I will admit that it could have easily gone sideways with Trump, but he was constantly checked by his administration, which made for the best outcome for us. I care about that way more than the perceived threat that was overexaggerated by the media for their own benefit. Look at how he was growing in popularity in lower class and minority communities. I believe with one more year, Trump would have dominated the Black and Hispanic vote.

You guys love to talk about Trump's narcissism while ignoring literally EVERYONE else in the establishment with the exact same characteristic. Their narcissism is sanctioned, and Trump's isn't. I'd take Trump over this ALL day. You know the worst part about listening to guys like Mike and Marty wax on about Trump to me? We could control Trump. We did control Trump. How do we control the establishment? We vote, right? Lol.

The trouble with Trump's narcissism is that it went to the point of not being able to accept the fact that he lost the election.  He's so ashamed he lost the election that he's willing to tear the country apart over it.   That's one of the worst things a President can do- to tell his supporters that their vote doesn't count and that the election was stolen.   Ronald Reagan stood for things, but he never accused the other side of being evil.  What are Trump's supporters supposed to do when they are convinced that the Presidency has been stolen by evil people?

Well, they are evil in that they conspired against him at every turn. He was never given credit for anything. Serious question: Can you name one thing the media or his political opponents ever applauded him for or at least expressed some agreement? 

I think he was also stunned that the politicians and media he had been so successful in marginalizing for the previous 3 years were able to engineer his defeat. Regardless of how hard the media tried, they couldn't get his poll numbers down into the 30s (Biden is there now WITH the support of the media). But George Floyd and COVID came along in a perfect storm to be leveraged against him. He couldn't accept it and he just spiraled down from there. 

I'm not making excuses for Trump's behavior and character flaws but given the amount of resistance he faced at every turn (yes, he created some of it) it's not difficult to understand his frustration.
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Messages In This Thread
Trump vs Desantis - by EricC85 - 01-18-2022, 02:20 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by mikesez - 01-18-2022, 03:35 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-18-2022, 03:54 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Caldrac - 01-18-2022, 04:24 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by americus 2.0 - 01-18-2022, 05:16 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by p_rushing - 01-18-2022, 05:36 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by EricC85 - 01-18-2022, 08:14 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by americus 2.0 - 01-18-2022, 08:30 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by EricC85 - 01-18-2022, 09:13 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by mikesez - 01-18-2022, 10:11 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by The Real Marty - 01-19-2022, 06:46 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Predator - 01-19-2022, 07:41 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Lucky2Last - 01-18-2022, 06:34 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Jags - 01-18-2022, 08:21 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by jj82284 - 01-18-2022, 09:36 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Lucky2Last - 01-19-2022, 08:24 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by homebiscuit - 01-19-2022, 08:51 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by americus 2.0 - 01-19-2022, 08:01 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by mikesez - 01-19-2022, 08:39 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by The Real Marty - 01-19-2022, 09:05 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by homebiscuit - 01-19-2022, 10:05 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by mikesez - 01-19-2022, 01:18 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Sneakers - 01-19-2022, 01:34 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by mikesez - 01-19-2022, 01:44 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by homebiscuit - 01-19-2022, 03:12 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by The Real Marty - 01-19-2022, 05:17 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Sneakers - 01-19-2022, 08:06 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by homebiscuit - 01-19-2022, 09:25 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Lucky2Last - 01-19-2022, 11:08 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by homebiscuit - 01-20-2022, 12:06 AM
Copycat - by copycat - 01-19-2022, 09:41 PM
RE: Copycat - by The Real Marty - 01-20-2022, 06:32 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-20-2022, 06:55 AM
Copycat - by copycat - 01-20-2022, 11:21 AM
RE: Copycat - by Lucky2Last - 01-20-2022, 08:29 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Cleatwood - 01-19-2022, 01:51 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by captivating - 01-21-2022, 04:22 AM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by jagibelieve - 01-21-2022, 04:48 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by HURRICANE!!! - 01-19-2022, 06:24 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by EricC85 - 01-19-2022, 08:18 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by mikesez - 01-19-2022, 10:09 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Ronster - 01-21-2022, 12:10 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by jj82284 - 01-21-2022, 12:36 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Jag88 - 01-22-2022, 12:29 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by americus 2.0 - 01-23-2022, 08:39 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by Jag88 - 01-23-2022, 10:03 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by americus 2.0 - 01-24-2022, 07:09 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by p_rushing - 01-22-2022, 11:58 PM
RE: Trump vs Desantis - by NewJagsCity - 01-24-2022, 05:23 AM



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