(02-04-2022, 03:15 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: I'm so freaking happy we made the smart choice over the emotional mistake with Byron.


good job jags.

We HAVE to come away with a solid DC & Speil for EVP though.... we need some pull on Baalke and some support for Dougy on the defense. 

Fangio and Speil would be epic tomorrow....

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(02-04-2022, 03:19 AM)rpr52121 Wrote:

(02-04-2022, 02:20 AM)Eric1 Wrote: I already told you that only 2 HCs in NFL history who have won the SB, have made it back to the SB with a new team as HC.

Only 7 of 15 of them have had winning seasons with their new teams.

Now you need to factor in that we're now including the most dysfunctional Franchise in NFL history into the mix. History isn't on our side here.

The problem with this stat is that there is hidden bias in the stat. In the modern FA era the only coaches to take another job after winning a SB with a different team are:

Jimmy Johnson (Dallas, Miami)
Mike Holmgren (Green Bay, Seattle)
Mike Shanahan (Denver, Washington)
Dick Vermeil (St. Louis, Kansas City)
John Gruden (Tampa, Raiders)
Mike McCarthy (Green Bay, Dallas)

The common denominator between most of those teams is that the SB winning team often had the prime HOF QB with the coach. Well past his prime Marino, Haselback, David Carr, and even Prescott don't compare at all to the Aikman, Farve, past-his prime Elway, Warner, and Rodger.

Only Gruden got a title with a non-HOF QB, and one of the greatest defenses in the past 20 years built by Tony Dungy. 

Pederson won his title with Nick Foles and Carson Wentz. Neither will ever sniff the HOF. If Trevor Lawrence can live up to even part of his draft hype he should eclipse both of those guys, and the Jaguars will be okay.

Even forgoing that, all those coaches had way more success in those 2nd stints than the Jaguars have since Coughlin and JDR. I totally understand the ideal plan is win a title while T-Law is on a rookie deal, but the whole point it develop him and set up a franchise mindset and base for the entire team that the Jaguars really have not had since JDR. You can always let Pederson go if he rights the ship but seems to find a plateau. 

It's not like there is only ever 1 great offensive mind/play caller in a generation. Just in the past few years there has been Kyle Shanahan, McVay, and LaFleur. Plus there like 3 guys in this cycle being billed as the next great play caller. There will be more guys with similar potential if needed in a few years.

Agreed. Great take man!

I also am envisioning this is a potential stop gap hire to one of those up and comers your talking about. 

If nothing else, Doug gives us stability and allows us to go young in 3 years when we are in better shape and not such a dumpster fire.

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