(02-12-2022, 11:23 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(02-12-2022, 11:08 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Agreed. Personally, I love Cooper and would easily give up a pair of third rounders for him. Cooper is an excellent route runner with great hands. That is two areas we lack now. He missed two games last season against the Raiders and Kansas City. The Cowboys lost both games. IMO, he just gets lost in the shuffle of the Cowboys potent passing game. Lamb is the #1 option with his vertical ability and Schultz is starting to become a redzone factor, but Cooper is still the guy they go to when they want to move the chains and pickup key first downs.

(02-12-2022, 11:17 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: I would easily give up #1 for Metcalf.

Heck. You could talk me into giving up #1 for DJ Moore. I’ve been saying all off season that a blockbuster trade for a true #1 WR is something the Jags need to highly consider. Buffalo with Diggs. Arizona with Hopkins. Browns with OBJ (even though it didn’t work).

Cooper is extremely talented and is consistently open. His main issue in Dallas is that lots of people are open because they are loaded on offense. Some games it was Schultz. Some games it was Lamb. Some games it was the running game and some games it was Cooper. In Jacksonville, it would always be Cooper Time.

The likelyhood that those WRs you talked about being there in the 3rd is low and then your banking on them being as good as Cooper. Again. Also low odds.

I’m just playing the odds game here.

What are Cooper's odds of being "the guy" when he's not surrounded by a strong cast? That's my point. They'll just roll coverage his way, make his life a living hell and he'll just end up being another high volume guy that doesn't amount to much. The goal should be for this offense to LOOK like Dallas on offense. That's what we WANT. 

I think they can achieve this by NOT giving up draft picks right now in a good WR class. Also, you're not understanding my logic. If you're going to trade a pair of 3's for Cooper. Why wouldn't you use that same logic to move up to get one of those receivers that have the potential to be better than Cooper? 

We need speed, versatility and youth to compliment Lawrence, Robinson and hopefully Etienne. Forking over a pair of 3's in this scenario for a guy that's only proven himself to be a number two at best in two different locations is not a good idea. I think you have to think about a 2 - 3 year window here. 

Metcalf makes a [BLEEP] ton of sense. As he's only 24. You have the cap space to extend him. He's clearly shown the ability to break games open. He's a monster overall. If you can land him. Then maybe draft another WR or sign another WR? Cool. I just don't think Cooper is worth a pair of 3's.

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(02-12-2022, 11:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Whether Chark leaves or not, I still pursue Cooper. They are two different kinds of receivers. Chark is a big play, speed guy and Cooper is a possession receiver with great hands. Even keeping Chark and getting Cooper does not change my draft plans though. I'm still drafting at least 2 WR's. I'm cleaning house at WR. I don't wanna see Marvin Jones or Laviska Shenault anywhere near the field next season, even in backup roles. I move them if I can, but if I can't, they are on the roster bubble going into the next preseason and they are gonna have to improve massively, in order to make the team.

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If we draft Justyn Ross with his injury history, we might as well flush that pick down the toilet.

Metchie III, Dotson and Robinson were also listed. I think those are guys you can trade up for if you're willing to throw a pair of 3's away for a #2. Which is essentially flushing a pick down a toilet and then making a second trip back to flush another one down since the pain still hurts. 

Ross is a nice security blanket for Lawrence with the 2nd pick in RD3 unless he just goes off at the combine and ends up being a steal elsewhere. I think his value needs to be considered when you look at the difference Chase made with Burrow. Having that chemistry is vital.

As I said before, adding Cooper and even keeping Chark doesn't change my draft plans at all. I'm still drafting at least 2 WR's, so maybe Cooper doesn't have to be "the guy," but he could be a valuable addition. You're rarely going to get a #1 receiver for a pair of 3rd rounders. I would be determined to upgrade the WR position as a whole. Adding just Cooper doesn't fix anything, but adding him as well as a couple other WR's via the draft could make a big difference. It would just be a 3rd round pick this year and one in 2023. That in no way prevents us from adding a Jahan Dotson, John Metchie or WanDale Robinson if they are available to us and it certainly wouldn't prevent me from drafting them. Amari Cooper is certainly better than 90% of the WR's who will be available in round 3. 

I'm not touching Justyn Ross. He had an injury riddled college career and never lived up to the hype. He in no way, should be compared to JaMarr Chase, when it comes to the connection he had to Burrow. It's not even close to being the same thing. Maybe you could make a case if we somehow traded for Tee Higgins, but not Justyn Ross. Higgins was a true #1 receiver for Lawrence at Clemson. Ross seemed to spend more time injured than he did on the field.

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