(02-23-2022, 03:04 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(02-23-2022, 08:40 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I don't know a lot about the law in question, except that one of the things it targets is "conversion therapy."  To me, "conversion therapy" is child abuse and should be outlawed.  You cannot persuade or brainwash a gay teenager to not be gay.  It's not a choice.

There are predispositions and then there are choices we make based on those predispositions.
Whether any of those choices are inherently bad or punishable is a separate question.
If and to what extent these choices should be encouraged or discouraged in youth is another separate question.
If so, how to encourage or discourage those choices, is a third separate question
Regardless of how we answer any of the above, they are choices.
And homosexuals will admit this, if they feel they are in a safe space.
The only reason they pushed the "born this way" idea for so long was because they were told it would help their legal arguments for gay marriage.

That is total bull [BLEEP], Mike, what in the hell are you talking about?  

Why would anyone choose to be gay?  And if it's a choice, when did you make the choice to be straight?  I certainly never made a choice to be straight, and I don't know anyone, gay or straight, who made a choice like that.  

And you're alleging there's some kind of grand conspiracy among gays to push the "born this way" idea in order to get gay marriage?  

You have lost your mind.

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