(02-23-2022, 04:33 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(02-23-2022, 03:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: There are predispositions and then there are choices we make based on those predispositions.
Whether any of those choices are inherently bad or punishable is a separate question.
If and to what extent these choices should be encouraged or discouraged in youth is another separate question.
If so, how to encourage or discourage those choices, is a third separate question
Regardless of how we answer any of the above, they are choices.
And homosexuals will admit this, if they feel they are in a safe space.
The only reason they pushed the "born this way" idea for so long was because they were told it would help their legal arguments for gay marriage.

That is total bull [BLEEP], Mike, what in the hell are you talking about?  

Why would anyone choose to be gay?  And if it's a choice, when did you make the choice to be straight?  I certainly never made a choice to be straight, and I don't know anyone, gay or straight, who made a choice like that.  

And you're alleging there's some kind of grand conspiracy among gays to push the "born this way" idea in order to get gay marriage?  

You have lost your mind.

It's pretty hard to choose how you feel (predispositions), but it's relatively easy to choose how you act (choices). 

I have very little choice about how the sight of a beautiful young woman makes me feel. But I have all manner of choices regarding if, and how, I interact with her.  If I was instead attracted to young and beautiful men, my choices would be the same.

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