(02-21-2022, 04:23 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (02-21-2022, 12:50 PM)scottyg Wrote: I'm not sure it's fair to take Mahomes' and Allen's total career stats as an indication of how they'd be ranked right now. Mahomes was amazing right off the bat, and Allen was in his third year before accuracy became a strength rather than a liability.
I tell you what though. I've never seen a more impressive display of passing by 2 QBs in a game than the divisional game between KC and Buffalo. Both guys were making every possible throw from every angle with precision and accuracy like nothing I've ever seen before. Just amazing arm talent between the two and a shame one of them had to lose.
If Allen had the ball last, he may have had a chance to pass Mahomes as numero uno, but he didn't. Mahomes is still #1 with Allen a close 2nd in my book.
Burrow, Rodgers, Herbert in that order afterwards for me. Rodgers has added quite a bit to it recently, but until about 3 or 4 years ago, I remember looking up 4th quarter comebacks, and the dude had like 6! It was completely bizarre to see a lot of the names on that list ahead of him while he was being talked about as one of the best of all time. I certainly wouldn't kick him off the team, but I would take any of the other 4 QBs at this stage in their careers over him.
Considering Mahomes rode the bench for most of his rookie year, I'm not sure it's fair to say he was amazing right off the bat. On top of that, why penalize Mahomes in any comparison if he was more ready to play coming into the league than Allen was?
That said, you are absolutely right that the two of them put on an absolutely amazing display in that playoff game. Allen certainly had nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, his performance along with Mahomes will go into history as one of the best playoff performances ever. To be honest, if Trevor Lawrence is playing at Allen's level at a similar stage in his career, Jaguars fans should be quite happy. I know I would be.
That said, there is scant objective rationale for saying Allen is a better QB than Mahomes at this point. But there is plenty suggesting he is the 4th best QB in the AFC.
I don't feel like I'm penalizing Mahomes for letting Allen off the hook a bit for having trouble hitting water from a boat in his first couple of years. I'm just not penalizing Allen for it. The knock on him coming out of college was accuracy, so his transformation is nothing short of amazing. That and I said Mahomes was still my #1.
I'm still taking Allen over Burrow and Herbert, though it's not an easy decision at all, and it's really just due to his ability as a runner. 3rd or 4th and short, Allen is almost indefensible.
I've barely seen Herbert play though, so maybe he'll change my mind if he starts willing his team to wins like those two do... And Burrow for that matter.
Felt like the golden age of quarterbacking was coming to an end with so many great QBs closing out their careers, but man these guys all look good.
