(02-24-2022, 11:04 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(02-24-2022, 10:40 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Self-defense from what?

Common criminals, pirates, and natives.  There are no pirates anymore and the remaining natives are peaceful, but we still have criminals to worry about.

I've tried to be clear what I'm arguing in favor of.  What are you arguing in favor of? Should Elon Musk be allowed to own and operate a personal fleet of A-10s? That's what it sounds like to me.

You are so squirmy. 

You have admitted the founders wanted to use militias for defense of the state against foreign aggressors, but when pressed, you pivot and say they are supposed to only use basic firearms for that defense (even though it defeats the purpose). You have admitted that the founders didn't want standing armies because their top priority was freedom for the people, but when pressed, you pivot and say that the founders wouldn't want people taking up arms against an oppressive state (even though it defeats the purpose). Like always, you start with your argument and build around it instead of following the facts.

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