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Jaguars linked to Amari Cooper trade (speculation)

(This post was last modified: 03-10-2022, 01:36 PM by Caldrac. Edited 2 times in total.)

(03-10-2022, 10:58 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(03-10-2022, 09:09 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Again, you're wanting to shell out a pair or 3RD picks in a deep WR class with a guy that's going to warrant a contract negotiation at the end of the year with a 20M+ cap hit as it stands. No thank you. 

I think people also forget that he's put up those numbers while playing on better football teams with more talent around him. Even when you go back and look at what he did in Oakland. Michael Crabtree was matching him step-for-step on the stat sheet. When you look at what he's done in Dallas. He's getting virtually matched again step-for-step by guys like Lamb, Schultz and Gallup. 

You're expecting him to come in here and be "the guy" where he's never played on any team in his career that didn't have at least 2 - 3 other guys on it that were capable of matching him on the stat sheet. You're really rolling the dice here. 

Again, in this scenario, at going on 28 years old in June this year, why would this be his 3rd stop in nearly 8 seasons? And, the 2nd time he would be traded? There's something to be said about that. Is he inconsistent during the regular season? Does he show lapses or lull moments during practices? Is he just a guy? Because there's a good chance in this scenario, you [BLEEP] around and find out the hard way. 

He was getting a lot of help around him during his career so far. And he was never able to justify where he was ultimately drafted from his class. You think Dallas traded for him expecting him to put up those kind of numbers above? No. They didn't. They wanted him to be "the guy" and he never elevated himself to that level and that's why they had to go out and draft a guy like CeeDee Lamb. 

I am telling you. This team will have buyer's remorse if they bite on a trade for Cooper. I bet he'll be lucky to hit 70 catches, 750 yards and 4 TD's on this offense as the WR1. Because we simply DO NOT have the supporting cast right now to help off set any shortcoming's of his game. 

Wait it out. Let Dallas cut him. Make him a fair offer in free agency when the market opens up and go from there. Giving up any draft picks in this class or next year's class though? Just stupid.

He wouldn't cost nearly that much. Dallas is likely gonna cut him. They will take much less than a pair of 3rd round picks. We could also agree to re-work his deal to a much more cap friendly number upon him arriving after the trade. That's how a lot of these trades get done. Cooper is worlds better than any receiver we currently have on the roster and trading for him would not change my draft plans at all. I still take a WR on day 2 of the draft, no matter what. We need a completely re-built receiving unit. 

As far as "rolling the dice," of course we are. We have to. We currently have the worst WR's in the NFL. Something needs to be done. A #2 WR on another team would be a #1 here and would improve our receiving unit tremendously. If I were GM, I would make sure we land one of these WR's via a trade, D.K. Metcalf, Tyler Lockett or Amari Cooper. I cannot put into words how important it is that we land one of these players. There is no WR's in free agency worth targeting. We have to get one in a trade.

Again. I am in agreement with you on Cooper's ability. I just don't think you fork over 3rd RD selections for him. Which is what jump started this entire thread based upon the link/article that was provided. This team has four picks in the sixth round. There's really no reason to sit on all of those. 

I wouldn't mind shelling out a pair of sixth round picks and a fourth round pick for Cooper. I would STILL want to see this team take the other sixth round picks and possibly fifth round pick to climb back up into the bottom of RD3 and land a quality player with starting potential. 

I agree that you're going to have to land another WR or possibly two in this year's draft. However, I also don't want to get overly carried away with that position in particular given that Doug Pederson's fiver year stint in Philadelphia NEVER featured a WR that put up triple digit numbers in receptions, never cracked 1,000 yards in receiving or double digit's in TD's. 

During his press conference here he made it pretty clear that having a viable option at TE is crucial to his offense and any QB's success philosophically. If you look at how he treated the running game he also had that going with a healthy rotation. He seems to be like a pool player when it comes to the WR position. He would tend to "call his pocket" in certain situations. 

I think he'll be able to make magic out of lunch meat with this market at WR. I think he'll find a good group of guys between the market opening up and the draft. I do think the TE position and RB position are being heavily overlooked by the majority of our fanbase and local pundits though. 

Zach Ertz is very much in play here. I think you have to be optimistic about Dan Arnold. I agree with you, again, about McBride being completely on the table if he's there at 33 and a run is made at WR on the opening night of the draft. I think you're going to see them looking at a good mix of RB's next week that fit Pederson's style of play while also trying to ensure they have a decent level of talent there while Robinson and Etienne return from injuries. 

This is why I didn't sweat the whole Cam Robinson tag again this year. I think with the RPO it's going to enable Lawrence to get the ball in and out of his hands. He's going to be looking for a TE or two depending on the formation and then he's going to be getting a good balance of assistance with the running game. I like Allen Robinson coming back here. I wouldn't mind Allen Lazard coming back here. I think you have to consider Russell Gage as well. Cedrick Wilson and Deonte Harris are decent pick-up's. 

I don't think you have to roll the dice with premium draft picks for Cooper though in this current situation.
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RE: Jaguars linked to Amari Cooper trade (speculation) - by Caldrac - 03-10-2022, 01:25 PM



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