(03-17-2022, 08:39 AM)Mikey Wrote:

(03-16-2022, 05:50 PM)Upper Wrote: I changed my name because the site had that email bug where I couldn't log in anymore. The entire football community loves spider charts because they show size and athletic capabilities in one tidy snapshot. It's just pure data it's not good or bad. It's the exact same thing as what mathbomb does now but in a different visual format, and pretty everyone loves mathbomb too.

Certain smooth brained people around here didn't like them because people would say idiotic stuff like Fowler was a freak athlete because he ran a fast 40 and then people who knew better would laugh and say no he's actually extremely unathletic in the drills that mattered. That rubbed those people the wrong way and they decided to hate the lifeless, raw tool instead of confront their own misconceptions and biases.

I don't care about spiders or bombs. I care about what ends up on the field.

You make it like the kid is a grizzled old vet incapable of development. Why pay position coaches if we can just look at a few tables of data and determine where a guy should line up? Your data doesn't provide full analysis. It gives you a few measurables, sure, but does it paint the picture of the offense he was in? If any of that time was while Rosen was with them, I'm inclined to take those stats with a grain of salt. Same when Murray replaced - rookie QB, undersized, what kind of run game is there to draw defenders off the receivers?

I mean, if you look at the traits required to win outside vs winning in the slot they line up pretty much exactly with Kirk, though. He is an undersized receiver who has decent long speed and poor agility. Sounds like a guy who will struggle vs outside corners and probably have pretty good success as a field stretching slot vs lesser corners, and guess what that's exactly what he is.

And yes I was KYJaggy like 5-10 years ago that's been mentioned several times over the years.

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